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How do you Feel about the New Smoking Ban in New Brunswick?

wrote on 3/3/2005 10:01:58 PM :
The no-smoking law came into effect on October 1st. Under the new law people are not allowed to smoke inside bars.

Are you a bar owner? Are a smoker? non-smoker? Were affected by the new legislation? Do you think it was a good measure? This is the place where these issues can be discussed!
whoisyourdaddy wrote on 3/3/2005 10:07:17 PM :
 I predict that smoking cigs will become illegal and everything else will become legal. CoolDrinks
wrote on 3/3/2005 10:08:27 PM :
I profess to be a non smoker, however if i go out with friends which i often do, to a bar, or something and they wish to smoke, let them smoke. we are suppose to live in a free country. being a non smoker and being arounf friends that do smoke, i say smoke away, i will certainly let you. as said, this is suppose to be a free country, the lord government is taking things too far, with this one.

-Dave Daigle Jr

wrote on 3/3/2005 10:09:05 PM :
feel free to smoke, don't we live in a free country.this is suppose to be a free country, so ya smoke away. i for one won't stop you.

-Dave Daigle Jr

sOfTwArE wrote on 3/3/2005 10:14:13 PM :
Hey Dave, you do have a point and keep on keeping on Buddy.
But I guess I just want to ask you a question are you a smoker? Computer
Biily Bob wrote on 3/3/2005 10:18:01 PM :
Hey Dave why don't you go to the chat and maybe we could meet and have a chat about some of the issues plaguing our community. You sound like a neat guy. Also could you tell some people to come on to our chat because if you are a true NBer you would. This site looks like it was built for us in Nb and we should support it
wrote on 3/3/2005 10:21:08 PM :
Great site! Keep up the good work guys.

-Bob's my Uncle & Sister [:-*]
wrote on 3/3/2005 10:22:17 PM :
smokers are less intelligent,.. and stink like sheeet - soo cool to see someone with a cig in their face - like a real moron would appreciate.

-moemoe Cool

wrote on 3/3/2005 10:24:00 PM :
I am a smoker, and although I do believe that non-smokers have the right not to have our secondhand smoke effecting them, I also think that the complete public ban of smoking in unfair. I would like to see something like a by-law allowing a percentage of restraunts and bars to apply to be smoking establishments with the stipulation that they must clearly post this fact to the public. Another idea is perhaps the complete division of these businesses into smoking and nonsmoking sections. These would not be the pathetic divisions they had before, but separated completely including separate doors. I know this would make it more expensive and inconvenient to businesses but in the long run I think it would be good for their profits.

I have been a smoker for many years and through the years I have made numerous friendships with nonsmokers. I respect their choice and smoke outside when at their homes, out with them at restraunts or when travelling with them. This type of respect is something I generally see in most smokers when they are in those situations. So my biggest question is what makes it so hard for them not willing to extend that type of benefit back to us? What makes us less deserving of enjoying our choices when out for a night on the town? Why can't we be given some level of compromise from the government? I am not asking to smoke with the non-smokers I am just asking that we be given the ability to go to a smoking establishment.

Sorry for the long winded rant but it is something I do get passionate about.

-Duvessa [<Surprise)]
wrote on 3/3/2005 10:25:45 PM :
I am THRILLED that Moncton finally made the commitment to join the future. This city is so far nehind the times sometimes that you wonder where this 'progressive' re***tion we have came from! For YEARS smoking has been banned in other jurisdictions and has not hurt but rather enhanced business. Smoking is a cancer on our society and nobody should have the right to expose others to its effects. GROW UP. I'm sick and tired of paying your medical bills.

-IrishBeer
wrote on 3/3/2005 10:28:03 PM :
hi software, i am sorry i am so late getting to your reply but i am a non smoker, however if my friends wish to smoke, let them, we live in canada, free country right. at least it was at one time in my life.

-Dave Daigle Jr Right Hug

wrote on 3/3/2005 10:31:16 PM :
if anyone wishes my email address it is dedaigle@hotmail.com. oh and billy bob, yes this site was build for nb and i wish more people would use this site and this forum because it is a great way to express yourself. even a chat room to make new friends, and i hope to, thats why i am leaving my email address to anyone, who wants it, do feel free to email me

-Dave Daigle Jr Right Hug



wrote on 3/3/2005 10:31:48 PM :
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wrote on 3/3/2005 10:32:30 PM :
i recently quit..... nevertheless, if you own the business, and you wish a smoking area or non-smoking area, that should be your inherent right. If people do not wish to be exposed to the possibility of smoke in that place, stay the hell out of that place! aka... doctor, i broke my arm in 2 places, what do i do? .... STAY OUT OF THOSE PLACES.

-furasta
wrote on 3/5/2005 10:17:07 PM :

I NEVER THOUGHT SMOKING WOULD BE A CRIME. DRINKING ESTABLISHMENTS WHO LET THEIR COSTUMERS LIGHT UP SEEM TO HAVE STIFFER PENALTIES THAT SOME OF A FEW CHILD MOLESTERS THAT WHERE CONVINCTED.  STRANGE!!!!!!!!
-RENIdea 

wrote on 3/7/2005 8:38:52 AM :
Hi Duvessa,
I have to say that I agree with you. I am an on and off amoker and I also appreciate both sides of the spectrum. It's not that difficult to create a simple concept like smoking and non smoking bars. What I would like to know is why exactly the ban was put in place initially. The gov't professes that it's better for the health of the public, which is true, but when has the gov't sincerely cared about the "well being" of the common people??.. If you ask me, we should also be banning alcohol, which is causing a great deal of unhealthy situations and death as well. Gambling is puttung A LOT of people under stress, family divisions, alcoholism, SMOKING more with some, which leads to Dr. appts. and the need to be "medicated". And we all know that the "bandaid" choice of medicating, ie: anti-depressants, anti-anxiety pills can lead to other problems,...and costs. I understand that it is uncomfortable and very uncomfortable for some to be sitting in a cloud of smoke...I've been there. But I also think that the choices the gov't makes to rectify the problem, even though it does benefit the non-smokers, is not based on the sole concern for our health and well being. I considered opening a bar at one time and would be willing to pay a little extra to make it a smoking establishment, to make it fair to the bars that continue to hold the ban, but as it stands, under this "capitalist/democratic", forgive me if I laugh at that one, country, I fear investing in anything that the gov't is the bar owner and my boss at the same time. They say jump and of course, we say, my legs are sore and I'm so tired from societal stress and working so hard...but how highIndifferent 
wrote on 3/7/2005 8:43:25 AM :
Hi Duvessa,
I have to say that I agree with you. I am an on and off smoker and I also appreciate both sides of the spectrum. It's not that difficult to create a simple concept like smoking and non smoking bars. What I would like to know is why exactly the ban was put in place initially. The gov't professes that it's better for the health of the public, which is true, but when has the gov't sincerely cared about the "well being" of the common people??.. If you ask me, we should also be banning alcohol, which is causing a great deal of "unhealthy" situations and death as well. Gambling is putting A LOT of people under stress, family divisions and relationship breakdown, low self esteem, alcoholism, SMOKING more with some, which leads to Dr. appts. and the need to be "medicated". And we all know that the "bandaid" choice of medicating, ie: anti-depressants, anti-anxiety pills can lead to other problems,...and costs. I understand that it is uncomfortable and very uncomfortable for some to be sitting in a cloud of smoke...I've been there. But I also think that the choices the gov't makes to rectify the problem, even though it does benefit the non-smokers, is not based on the sole concern of our health and well being. I considered opening a bar at one time and would be willing to pay a little extra to make it a smoking establishment, to make it fair to the bars that continue to hold the ban, but as it stands, under this "capitalist/democratic", forgive me if I laugh at that one, country, I fear investing in anything that the gov't is the bar owner and my boss at the same time. They say jump and of course, we say, my legs are sore and I'm so tired from societal stress and working so hard...but how highIndifferent 
willie c wuddle wrote on 9/17/2005 8:05:56 PM :
I am not a smoker and never felt the urge to start. I can accept the fact that people aren't allowed to smoke in public buildings like libraries, government offices, hospitals, etc. It's a fair idea. I however strongly disagree with banning it every where. If I owned a business I would respect my smoking and nonsmoking customers by providing my smoking customers with a private designated area. The new law takes that desision away from me. To make matters worse a person can't even organise a private smoking club for private members where people could smoke away in happiness.  As I once said to a customer a few years back "You can't smoke but I can still pharrt." I could tell this slightly irritated him and he retaliated with a round of butt gas.

Somebody should petition this sort of thing before somebody else decides to make a law against petitions.
willie c wuddle wrote on 9/17/2005 8:24:44 PM :
 whoisyourdaddy wrote:
 I predict that smoking cigs will become illegal and everything else will become legal. CoolDrinks

I heard a theory on the non smoking issue.
Why not make cigarettes illegal and legalize marijauna?
The government would collect a lot more taxes on a $50.00 pack of pot than on an $8.00 pack of regular tobacco.
                               out
juju wrote on 9/21/2005 1:14:12 AM :

Smoking was once seen as glamorous, sophisticated and sexy, but not any more.

frankly it does not bother me in the least. Do I think government should tell the people what they should do or not do? No! They are the ones selling the dope the drugs called cigarettes. Nevertheless, it's a sticky subject for me and I do not care either way.

willie c wuddle wrote on 9/23/2005 10:50:09 PM :
Hi juju, it is none of my business but what does your
"I guess I could be pretty pissed off about what happened to me... but it's hard to stay mad, when there's so much beauty in the world."
My email is wuddle@msn.com I am just curious and I mean well.
message mean ?
willie c wuddle wrote on 9/23/2005 11:04:55 PM :
I was watching the Vancouver news about a week ago. A bunch of kyackers and other water enthousiests (I can't spell worth poop) were cleaning up a beach in Vancouver. They pulled everything from the water.........garbage, chairs, a computer, bottles, cans, litter of all kinds, but the worst stuff they pulled out was cigarette butts. There were just so many of them. They get in the water and slowley realease the toxins that they filter from the people who toss them away. It sounds like a horror story. I'm not smoking, or even worse, swimming there.
wrote on 10/12/2005 2:53:49 PM :

Hello all,

I am 21 years old and have been smoking the better part of a pack a day since I was 14. I enjoy smoking a lot (stupid of me, I know...) but as a smoker I still welcomed the tobacco ban. Why? Because even as a smoker I didn't appreciate going to a bar or club with friends and colleagues to end up leaving smelling like an old ashtray with beer spilt in it. I understand that Canada is a free country... But thats not the issue here, that statement is a poor defense coming from a vocal minority. The freedoms of smokers in New Brunswick are not being infringed upon at all. Thats the wrong way to look at it. We, the smokers, are the ones who (c
onsciously or not) have been imposing our choice to smoke on everyone else around us.

Nobody is saying that smokers can't go downtown and have a good time. Nobody is saying that you can't smoke. Nobody is telling you that you can't do both at the same time. The only thing that has been said is that you can't unintentionally expose people to harmful chemicals while in confined spaces.

The ban on smoking in public buildings couldn't have come as that much of a shock to anyone. It was inevitable... And to stand there with a straight face and say that your "freedom" is being taken away by some fascist government parent-figure is the kind of argument set forward by a child who has just been told he can't point his pellet gun at other the neighborhood kids.

A law stating that you are not allowed to smoke inside a bar is no different than a law saying that you can't drink outside of the bar. In fact drinking outside a bar is less likely to affect someone else than you smoking inside.

The final thought I'll leave you with is this: When Tim Hortons (the heartbeat of Moncton itself) banned smoking outright their sales went up an estimated 200% as a result. Do you remember that? EVERYONE thought Tim's was doomed! I mean, after all, the smokers were thier main clientele... right? Wrong! Smokers are going to have to come to the realization that WE are the minority nowadays and the smokeless majority is getting sick of bending over backwards, and making themselves uncomfortable to accommodate a group of people who, day after day, insist on hurting themselves and those around them... 

And remember, I AM A SMOKER!

-Feragoh 

notme wrote on 10/12/2005 11:18:20 PM :
   i luv it   now i can eat meals at any place without smoke ruining my meal but in clubs or places that do not serve  food  smoking should be allowed ........  because most of my friends are freezing their xcvb outside