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please answer my question on money

huxley wrote on 5/22/2006 6:51:27 PM :

i want to find how big this manipulation is.

i have two simple questions .

1.  who prints the money?

2.where does are taxes go to?

 

 

 

 

thanks ,can't wait to hear your answers.

Bulert wrote on 5/22/2006 7:29:59 PM :
uspect they come and go to the same place..the governtment
Bridgette1978 wrote on 5/22/2006 7:49:14 PM :
huxley wrote:

i want to find how big this manipulation is.

i have two simple questions .

1.  who prints the money?

2.where does are taxes go to?

 

 

 

 

thanks ,can't wait to hear your answers.

 

ok, let me try money is easy, its government, where are taxes going? to welfare people!

Bulert wrote on 5/22/2006 7:51:35 PM :
Very true. I think welfare is a little to easy to get, people become depemdant and ruin the extra help for those who need it.
SweetMelody wrote on 5/22/2006 7:55:23 PM :

Canadian Mint prints the money.

Where does the Tax money go? To line the deep pockets of Government officials.

Bulert wrote on 5/22/2006 8:38:22 PM :
basically it goes everywhere but to the people who pay it
willie c wuddle wrote on 5/22/2006 9:05:09 PM :

Money? What is money? Is it that paper stuff that says Canadian Tire on it? I actually had some of that once. Here is a pic to prove it.

                                      

notme wrote on 5/22/2006 9:07:18 PM :

you want to know who print the money it our government  but it the banks that invent it   did you know that the money the banks are lending you does not even exist ...it a credit they lend you

 

and when you pay them back  you are just adding to their billions in profit because you are giving them cash that you earned not credit

 

example;  

Central banks are controlled not by elected governments but largely by PRIVATE INTERESTS from the world of commercial banking. In Britain today, notes and coins now account for only 3% of our total money supply, down from 50% in 1948. The remaining 97% is supplied and regulated as credit - personal and business loans, mortgages, overdrafts etc. provided by commercial banks and financial institutions - on which INTEREST is payable. This pattern is repeated across the globe.

 

for more http://www.whale.to/m/greaves1.html

Bulert wrote on 5/22/2006 9:29:48 PM :

wow i am too lazy to even think that hard notme

Duke wrote on 5/22/2006 10:11:04 PM :

The Canadian Mint prints the money on the order given by the Government.

To answer your question second question - "who the heck know anymore. But my solution is to lower tax rates on income should be an important objective, especially in the current economic climate. I think that this will encourage investment and promote economic growth. But ultimately, the only way to reduce the amount of private wealth the government will confiscate is to reduce the size and reach of the government. The modern welfare state and a vibrant, low-tax, free-market economy cannot indefinitely co-exist. This is not a root-canal approach to austerity. It is a basic arithmetic reality.

notme wrote on 5/22/2006 10:16:34 PM :

The Canadian Mint prints the money on the order given by the Government

 

 

 well i have a question  why our government does not print enought money to get us out of debt

Bulert wrote on 5/22/2006 10:34:36 PM :
i think everyone has a diffrent opinion on our government, I personally think it " sucks" to be blunt. I know a lot of people who are impressed by the canadian government
SweetMelody wrote on 5/23/2006 9:50:50 AM :

Bulert wrote:
i think everyone has a diffrent opinion on our government, I personally think it " sucks" to be blunt. I know a lot of people who are impressed by the canadian government

Unfortunately I am not one of them. I like you!

Bulert wrote on 5/23/2006 12:54:10 PM :
Thanks sweet melody. Cool [H]
BillyBob wrote on 5/23/2006 4:42:03 PM :
They say they pave the roads but the only thing I see being paver is the landing strip to front of their mansions. Have you seen the roads lately. I love the quilt job on St.Gerorge St. I guess that's where it goes.
BillyBob wrote on 5/23/2006 4:42:26 PM :
They say they pave the roads but the only thing I see being paver is the landing strip to front of their mansions. Have you seen the roads lately. I love the quilt job on St.Gerorge St. I guess that's where it goes.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        
Vlad Drac wrote on 5/23/2006 4:59:51 PM :
notme wrote:

The Canadian Mint prints the money on the order given by the Government

 

 

 well i have a question  why our government does not print enought money to get us out of debt

It's not like the Mint can just decide to make as much money as they want. All this "credit" you speak of is just the same as money. That piece of paper with "$20" written on it represents $20 but having more of them floating around isn't gonna make the country richer, it's just gonna allow us to get more in debt than you can get now with the money you currently have in your pockets.

It's a pretty weird concept to grasp but $$ doesn't mean anything anymore, it's just a number that represent how much the country is worth so to speak.

It used to be that money represented a certain value in gold but I guess they changed that some time ago because no one wants their money's value to fluctuate based on the worth of a piece of metal that you will never see in your whole life.

 

As far as taxes go, heck, we should just get rid of them completely. I mean, why the hell should teachers get paid? Why do we need to maintain hospitals? Let's get rid of all governemt services altogether. *** roads, *** the RCMP, *** [insert any government employee title here] we can run this show ourselves. O.K.....enough with the sarcasm...

I'm not saying our school and health systems are in great shape but it still takes money to keep them running. Deal with it.

notme wrote on 5/23/2006 6:29:49 PM :

well first thing  money and credit are totally different  

 

money is made according to the resources and wealth  of a country

 

 

as for credit  it fake money that banks makes as needed   and get paid back for in real money

 

 

  as for taxes well i agree we do need some but i think  we are overtaxes    because we are not getting what we are paying for

 

 as for deal with it   well only people that are afraid to face the truth  that would say that

others would try to modify the system so it would work better

 

 

    but hey that would not be the Canadian way to question the liars oops politicians

Vlad Drac wrote on 5/23/2006 7:12:50 PM :

notme wrote:
as for credit  it fake money that banks makes as needed   and get paid back for in real money 

I really don't see how money and "credit" are different. I usually take money out of the bank (ATM) and deposit credit (paycheck) into my account. Both are equal forms of "money".

I'm pretty sure if the bank gives you credit or a loan they didn't just create $20 000  out of the blue. And even though they don't physically have that money in their safe it doesn't mean it's any different than the money you earn at work or the change you might find under your couch cushions.

notme wrote on 5/23/2006 8:22:40 PM :

The complaint was filed Friday April 15, 2005 in the Supreme Court of British Columbia at New Westminster. It alleges that all financial institutions who are in the business of lending money have engaged in a deliberate scheme to defraud the borrowers by lending non-existent money which are illegally created by the financial institutions out of "thin air."

The legal action brings to the fore one of the major economic "drag factors" - the interest charged by banks for money that technically and legally is not theirs to lend, because even governments end up paying interest to banks lending money for public spending, and they in turn charge tax payers. A large part of every country's tax revenue goes first and foremost - before any "internal" spending - to payment of interest, largely because of the basic flaw in our way of creating money by the rich and for the

notme wrote on 5/23/2006 8:43:29 PM :

Do you know where the bank gets the $160,000 for your mortgage? It's very simple. Someone walks over to a computer and types 160,000 beside your name. With only $27.93 of cash reserves for every $10,000 of assets (as of June 1999) the bank has just created the remaining $159,553 of that interest-earning money out of thin air. When, after 25 years of hard work, you pay off your mortgage, the $159,553 vanishes back into thin air. Not so the interest however. It vanishes into the banker's pocket.

Looking at the whole economy of a country, in this case Canada, the folly of such a practice becomes even more obvious: In 1999 bank credit amounted to $557 billion, almost 95 percent of our money supply. Real interest (i.e. nominal interest minus inflation) on this bank credit was at least 5 percent, or $28 billion. But where is this interest to come from since banks create credit, but not the interest they charge on that credit? It can't come from the approximately $32 billion in cash (GCM) that circulates in public hands. It can only come from more bank credit with more interest attached.

While this refers to the situation in Canada, there is no substantial difference between that country and any other. The money making machine of Modern Banking and the Fractional Reserve System works the same anywhere.

A Privatised Money Supply

Modern Banking and the Fractional Reserve System

Do you know where the bank gets the $160,000 for your mortgage? It's very simple. Someone walks over to a computer and types 160,000 beside your name. With only $27.93 of cash reserves for every $10,000 of assets (as of June 1999) the bank has just created the remaining $159,553 of that interest-earning money out of thin air. When, after 25 years of hard work, you pay off your mortgage, the $159,553 vanishes back into thin air. Not so the interest however. It vanishes into the banker's pocket. Chartered (i.e. privately owned) banks, such as The Bank of Montreal, The Royal Bank, The CIBC, etc. have created about 95 percent of our total money supply ($589.1 billion as of Sept 1999) in exactly this way. But the cash reserves in their vaults amount to only a paltry $3.893 billion. (About $32 billion of cash circulates in public hands.) This is called fractional reserve banking, and it's the greatest scam of all time because it creates debt for no reason other than to enrich the banking class. Its long term effect ??? as becomes clearer every day ??? is to steadily suck wealth out of the community and into the hands of a few people, a fact that bankers and most politicians stubbornly refuse to admit. Charging interest on money created out of nothing is, in the main, unjust and immoral, and Plato, Aristotle, Cicero, the Bible (Deuteronomy 23:19), the Koran (2:275-278), the Catholic Church, many codes of law and most writers on morals have condemned it for more than two thousand years. The historical name for this evil is usury. Nevertheless bankers enjoy peace of mind because they know that the public thinks they merely lend out the savings of their depositors. In fact, banks create more than 95 percent of all deposits, for when a bank creates a loan it simultaneously creates a deposit. What banks do to justify the accusation of being economic parasites is to lend out interest-bearing money of their own creation using a very thin sliver of legal tender (cash) to back it up.

To see the whole article, A Privatised Money Supply, go here.
For more info visit websites:
www.themoneymasters.com
www.moneymaker.com
www.monetary-reform.on.ca

See also articles in the Economy section of this site and

The Terrorism Of Debt - by Wanda Fish. The genocide happening in the third world today is even more horrifying than the death camps in Nazi Germany. This time the objective is not to "cleanse the master race", but to make the masters wealthier.

 


posted by Sepp Hasslberger on Tuesday October 21 2003
updated on Saturday September 24 2005

URL of this article:
http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/sepp/2003/10/21/your_bank_a_money_making_machine.htm

 


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huxley wrote on 5/26/2006 1:36:54 PM :

when people answer that the govrenment prints the i do not if i should laugh or cry.  because most people are unaware of the manipulation of the money system. if they did it would be the first steps to change this fraud we call MONEY.

first : it is the privately controled central bank that prints the money. a loan at interest to the government ,that we the taxe payer  ,pay back the money the gov has borrowed plus the interest on it  (that does not exist)

are taxes do not go to the roads ,police ,firefighter,ect....        it goes to the pay the loan and interest (which doesn't exist) that the gov borrowed.

example the federal reserve  is a privately onwed company made up of 15 other central banks including the bank of england.

the IRS is a privately owned company. 

 

government borrow it from the private banking cartel and pay back both the interest and the capital by taxation of the people.THE MONEY YOU PAY IN TAXES GO STRAIGHT TO THE PRIVATE BANKS TO PAY BACK LOANS WHICH THE GOVERNMENT COULD CREATE THEMSELVES INTEREST-FREE!!! WHY DON'T THEY DO IT?

two people in the u.s .a started the procees of gov creating it own money interest free.

it was abraham lincoln and john f kennedy ,they also have something else  in common?

 

there are videos at google to inform yourslef better.

http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=money+masters

 

http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=federal+reserve

GIDDERDONE wrote on 5/26/2006 2:21:54 PM :

This may sound like a really dumb statement (but who care) who controlls the banks? So is it the bank who pays or the road work and our parks? Please do tell. Because I calling the bank next week when I have a problem instead o the Government.

So maybe you outta start crying now.

 

willie c wuddle wrote on 5/26/2006 2:26:42 PM :

The banks are more powerful than the government...Oops, did I say that?????????

 

huxley wrote on 6/4/2006 3:40:47 PM :
GIDDERDONE wrote:

This may sound like a really dumb statement (but who care) who controlls the banks? So is it the bank who pays or the road work and our parks? Please do tell. Because I calling the bank next week when I have a problem instead o the Government.

So maybe you outta start crying now.

 

              first off what a sheep mentality.

 

 


in canada we live in more of a controled prison then the usa,

but there is hope , to legally not pay taxes in canada , and that will be through the UPPER CASE NAME and LOWER CASE name.

have you notisted that on every document sent by the gov your name is in upper case name(look at your drivers license)


Why are our names in upper case letter in gov documents?

simple :upper case name is a corporation
lower case name is the living breating flesh and blood sovering man.

it is a corporation /trust set up by the gov through the treasury dep. at your birth.

goverments operates under COMMERCIAL law, laws passed by government only apply to corporations not living breathing flesh and blood sovereing freeman.we are subjected to COMMON law not commercial law introduced by legislation.


next time the police or gov sends you a piece of paper saying you have to pay this (fined) and your name is in upper case letters you ask them to sent you that same threatening letter with your lower case name on it .(which they will not , they will say it's for clarity ,then you say ok now we now which person this threatening letter belongs to , now sent us back that letter with my lower case name )

and when that doesn't work (this is the big one )
you challenge them to PROVE theire JURISDICTION over a living breathing woman or man under theire COMMERCIAL law.(the police man is going to be confused, because he doesn't know what his part of, if he did it would not work)


the people who enforces the system must also be ignorant of what they are involed with.



again i wrote this to inform people .i do know that this writing ,this view , what its going to happen is (like the next post and the next post )is we are going to perpetually fight amongst are selves ,and that is precisely what i don't want to create.

so please let us NOT fight with are selves and create pure negative energy and frustration. what i don't want is ,us to fight with ourselves and avoid the real question about : government can print its own money ,why don't they.

(and this is only one scam of the manipulation of the world,
and knowing that we live in a very real prison without bars is the first step to breaking free from this prison. we can turn this prison into a paradise. if we CHOISE to.)

let us stop fighting with ourselves while the manipulator continue to control us . classic divide and conquer techniques: keep the public fight amongst its self while you divide and conquer them.