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Pride...

spyn wrote on 9/1/2006 11:05:05 AM :

I received this email a few days ago....Let the debate begin....

 

You pass me on the street and sneer in my direction.

You call me "Whiteboy," "Cracker," "Honkey," "Whitey," "Caveman" and that's OK.

But when I call you ***, Kike, Towelhead, Sand-***, Camel Jockey, Beaner, Gook, or Chink you call me a racist.

You say that whites commit a lot of violence against you, so why are the ghettos the most dangerous places to live?

You have the United Negro College Fund.
You have Martin Luther King Day.
You have Black History Month.
You have Cesar Chavez Day.
You have Yom Hashoah.
You have Ma'uled Al-Nabi.
You have the NAACP.
You have BET.


If we had WET (White Entertainment Television), we'd be racists.

If we had a White Pride Day, you would call us racists.

If we had white history month, we'd be racists.

If we had an organization for only whites to "advance" our lives, we'd be racists.

If we had a college fund that only gave white students scholarships, you know we'd be racists.

There are over 60 openly proclaimed Black Colleges in the US, yet if there were "White colleges" that would be a racist college.

In the Million Man March, you believed that you were marching for your race and rights. If we marched for our race and rights, you would call us racists.

You are proud to be black, brown, yellow and orange, and you're not afraid to announce it. But when we announce our white pride, you call us racists.

You rob us, carjack us, and shoot at us. But, when a white police officer shoots a black gang member or beats up a black drug-dealer running from the law and posing a threat to society, you call him a racist.

I am proud. But, you call me a racist. Why is it that only whites can be racists?

oldman wrote on 9/1/2006 11:09:47 AM :
now spyn you made some good points.let as you say the debate begin.i can't wait to see the replys your article is going to generate.
Bulert wrote on 9/1/2006 11:10:01 AM :
I agree 100%~~~ i applaud you!
WWJD wrote on 9/1/2006 11:40:40 AM :
For any white individual to call anyone a racially motivated slur is simply ignorant.

The standard applies to both white and dark skinned individuals.

Man was made in the Image of God.

We're created equal.


Faulty wrote on 9/1/2006 11:56:26 AM :

The people who founded those organizations are not the same ones who throw racial slurs around. You underestimate the privilege you inherited by being white.

 

You rob us, carjack us, and shoot at us. But, when a white police officer shoots a black gang member or beats up a black drug-dealer running from the law and posing a threat to society, you call him a racist.

This is a pretty racist comment.

 

In the Million Man March, you believed that you were marching for your race and rights. If we marched for our race and rights, you would call us racists.

When was the last time you were repressed for being white?

You say that whites commit a lot of violence against you, so why are the ghettos the most dangerous places to live?

This proves nothing about race. This simply shows what poverty will do to you.

  • More than 6 in 10 persons in local jails in 2002 were racial or ethnic minorities, unchanged from 1996.
  • An estimated 40% were black; 19%, Hispanic, 1% American Indian; 1% Asian; and 3% of more than one race/ethnicity.
  • Do you think that has to do with the fact that they're black? Or because American society does not give them equal opportunity? White people in the states get preference, how can I say this?

    The unemployment rate for black or African Americans is pegged at  9.4% or more than double those of white americans. The poverty rate for people reporting white as their only race was 10.8% in 2004, up from 10.5% in 2003. The poverty rate for people who reported black as their only race was effectively unchanged at 24.7% in 2004

    See a problem here?

    WWJD wrote on 9/1/2006 11:57:44 AM :
    Faulty wrote:
    The people who founded those organizations are not the same ones who throw racial slurs around. You underestimate the privilege you inherited by being white.


    In my post I wasn;t even referring to theose organizations... I was simply making a statement

    Also, I'm not white.
    Faulty wrote on 9/1/2006 11:58:38 AM :

    WWJD wrote:
    Faulty wrote:
    The people who founded those organizations are not the same ones who throw racial slurs around. You underestimate the privilege you inherited by being white.


    In my post I wasn;t even referring to theose organizations... I was simply making a statement

    Also, I'm not white.

     

    I wasn't replying to you.

    WWJD wrote on 9/1/2006 12:01:45 PM :
    Oh. Smile [:)]

    I do wanna ask, though Faulty...

    The founders of those organizations... were they racist?
    Faulty wrote on 9/1/2006 12:11:47 PM :
    I think it really depends how you define racism. In the most literal sense, yes they are becaues they're discriminating against another race. However, "racism" has a very negative connotation and indeed implies that you must be acting with some kind of malice or ill intent. I don't think any of these organizations fit that profile. If there was no need for these organizations, they wouldn't exist. White priviledge still plays a large part in western society.
    spyn wrote on 9/1/2006 12:14:15 PM :

    Racism- The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.

    So in order to be  racist, you must first beleive you are superior.

    So why is it that in so many of these points here, it is only another race that is able to have pride in their origins?

    I agree that everyone is equal, but when I say that I mean I am as equally allowed to have pride in being white as a person who has a different colour skin is.

    Unfortunatly with today's world, if I were to say I was proud of being white, I'm suddenly a racist. So why is it that different races are allowed to have pride.

    They are no longer a minority, unless they make themselves one. There is no more slavery, they have just as many rights as we do, and who really cares what colour their skin is?

    The point is, racism is not just part of being white. It's part of not accepting that another person, race or culture is no more or less superior then the other.

    Faulty wrote on 9/1/2006 12:19:21 PM :
    spyn wrote:

    They are no longer a minority, unless they make themselves one. There is no more slavery, they have just as many rights as we do , and who really cares what colour their skin is?

     

    You don't talk to many poor black people do you?

    spyn wrote on 9/1/2006 12:34:10 PM :
    What makes them different from poor white people?
    Faulty wrote on 9/1/2006 12:36:26 PM :
    They're still descriminated against. Answering a question with a question is a terrible debate tactic by the way. Makes you look like your side stepping an issue.
    Bulert wrote on 9/1/2006 12:39:29 PM :

    Like i said in the original post sterotypes will never chnage

    spyn wrote on 9/1/2006 12:40:49 PM :
    I wasn't side stepping, I really wanted to know why being black and poor was so much worse then being white and poor. Everybody who is poor is discriminated against.
    WWJD wrote on 9/1/2006 12:45:30 PM :
    Homeless: Click here
    Faulty wrote on 9/1/2006 12:52:39 PM :
    I really like that song Dan. I've heard it quite a few times and I think it has a great message. Spyn, also, if you think that a poor white man and a poor black man have the same problems, then you really need to read a few books by some black authors or talk to black people who are living that life. Their situations and challenges are not the same.
    Bulert wrote on 9/1/2006 1:06:19 PM :

    Well, i am out to work. When i get back everyone better be playing nicely!

    WWJD wrote on 9/1/2006 2:32:46 PM :
    Thanks faulty... I love it too! Great song!

    As for blacks and whites.. I also agree there....

    History bears out that black people were discriminated against FAR more than whites.
    willie c wuddle wrote on 9/1/2006 1:20:56 PM :

    "I wasn't side stepping, I really wanted to know why being black and poor was so much worse then being white and poor. Everybody who is poor is discriminated against."-spyn

    Oh, you poor people are all alike.Wink [;)]

    mindy rae wrote on 9/1/2006 2:10:41 PM :

    Lets remember that Pride can be taken too far.

    From what history has shown the majority of the violence has occurred due to the fact that healthy "white" peoples feel and/or beleive they are superior to others of a different color, ability, etc. 

    For many many years it was whites who enslaved not only blacks but the mentally and physically handicaped, peoples of asian and indian or native decent.

    Did you know that in 1930's in the New England States there were some facilities who practiced human sterilazations on children of poor native american and asian families to try and wipe them out because they felt that they were a disgrace and burden to their communities. This practice was not widely spoke about and still is a very well kept and painful secret for the families who did survive. Many of these kids grew up not being able to produce children of their own and had NO idea why. Who did this you ask and who allowed this to happen? The white heads of the communities.

    Who enslaved the Jews and created the Holocaust? Yes they were German HOWEVER their reasoning was they are not White so they must go.

    History has shown us so much hatred from our ancestors and past that frankly there are lots of times that I am NOT proud to be white. We are from a priveledged society for sure.

    If peoples of other origins feel the need to create their own safe haven then so be it. Honestly they are only trying to better them selves and rise above their past.

    Hatred and rasicism is something that is taught. Why not be proud of these people for their hard work and strength in trying to improve themselves. If you don't agree with their peaceful organizations then don't support them. Keep in mind that there is a difference between an organization that teaches black history and an organization such as the black panthers that teaches hate. We also have such organizations known as the KKK which has so much blood on their hands that they should be wearing red to hide it.