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HARPER VISITS TROOPS IN AFGHANISTAN

oneandonly wrote on 3/12/2006 7:46:15 PM :

Harper makes surprise visit to Kandahar

Prime Minister Stephen Harper arrived in Afghanistan on Sunday in a carefully planned and closely guarded mission to show support for Canadian troops and diplomatic staff.

Prime Minister Stephen Harper chats with Brig.-Gen. David Fraser (right) upon Harper's arrival in Kandahar on Sunday. (CP PHOTO/Tom Hanson)

"These are a great bunch of men and women doing a tough job," said Harper shortly after landing in the southern city of Kandahar.

"We want to make sure they understand their government and the population is behind them."

Harper said the Canadian force in Afghanistan serves the national interest because:

  • International terrorism is rooted in the country. "It was in Afghanistan that Sept. 11 started."
  • The country is a major source of narcotics, which have a terrible impact on Canada.
  • It shows Canada providing international leadership and humanitarian aid.
  • It was the prime minister's first official visit abroad since his Conservative party won the parliamentary election in January.

    "I thought it was fitting that my first foreign trip would be to go there and lend obvious support," he said.

    "If we are going to send them into harm's way, we should be prepared to go there and support them in what they do."

    Media sworn to news blackout

    The entire Harper visit was arranged with a close eye on security and secrecy. Every journalist travelling with the prime minister had to agree not to break news of the visit before 6 p.m. EST on Sunday.

    Media organizations were notified late Friday, not long before Harper, his entourage and reporters took off in a Canadian Forces Airbus from Ottawa.

    The flight left at 8 a.m. EST Saturday and stopped to refuel in Zagreb, Croatia. It then headed on to Islamabad, Pakistan, where everyone transferred from the Airbus to a military Hercules aircraft.

    "We've been planning this for some time, but we made the final decision [to go] about a week ago," Harper told reporters.

    Accepts risks of the trip

    Harper acknowledged that his officials had been "fairly careful about information" for security reasons.

    He said he accepted any risks that might come with heading into a combat zone.

    Prime Minister Stephen Harper meets with Canadian troops in Kandahar on March 12, 2006.

    "These are the responsibilities that go with the office," he said, adding that he views the trip as being in the "national interest."

    Mission shouldn't be debated, Harper says

    Still, the visit comes amid debate at home about the mission and the loss of Canadian lives in the region.

    Canada currently has about 2,300 troops in the country. On Feb. 28, Canadian Brig.-Gen. David Fraser assumed control over the multinational force responsible for southern Afghanistan.

    Since early 2002, 10 Canadian soldiers and a diplomat have been killed in Afghanistan and another 26 Canadian soldiers have been injured.

    Harper said "the debate over deployment is over," no matter what surveys of public opinion may suggest.

    "I think you can have an opinion poll that shows anything.

    "Canadians are always behind our troops wherever they go. And I think the more they understand about the mission and all the things we're doing here, the more support they'll have for the work we're doing."

oneandonly wrote on 3/13/2006 7:00:54 AM :
         Good speech                    

Canada is committed,we will not "cut and run" he told the troops.
Nice to see our troops finally get some support instead of getting ignored.  I am trying to remember the last PM to visit our troops in a combat zone. I know our last GG visited the troops at sea and on the ground at Christmas/New Years quite a few times, but the last PM I can think of doing a visit was MacKenzie-                                                                           King                                                                                                                                                                          

sassy_chick wrote on 3/13/2006 7:10:36 AM :
I can't say it surprises me much.  He is a huge supporter of the war
BillyBob wrote on 3/20/2006 9:33:49 AM :
Maybe I am a bonehead but why and what are we(Canadians) doing in Afganistan? What the heck do we have to do with a war? Why are we spending good Canadian $$$ to try and keep peace. The US started this war and by golly the should damn well clean it up by themselves. Or shall I say... we are there to ensure the pipelines are installed peacefully. This really sucks that we have to pay so America can have peace. Contradictory isn't it?
oneandonly wrote on 3/15/2006 10:53:49 AM :
Canadian troops shoot man in Afghan taxi

Canadian troops shoot man in Afghan taxi

Canadian Press

Kandahar, Afghanistan ??? Canadian troops shot and killed a taxi driver who came too close to their patrol in southern Afghanistan, the Canadian military said Wednesday.

Captain Julie Roberge said the shooting happened late Tuesday in the former Taliban stronghold of Kandahar. The Canadian military and Afghan police are investigating.

The driver of the three-wheeled motorized taxi, known locally as a rickshaw, died in the hospital where he was being treated, she said. He was in his mid-40s.

There were no passengers in the taxi when the Canadians fired from an armoured vehicle, Capt. Roberge added.

Afghans are warned to keep their distance from the patrols by Canadian armoured convoys because of the threat of suicide attacks, she said.

Lieutenant-Colonel Derick Basinger, the chief of staff for Task Force Afghanistan, said the incident happened after the driver of the vehicle ran an Afghan police checkpoint about four kilometres from this former Taliban stronghold.

The Canadian vehicles, belonging to the provincial reconstruction team, were well back from the barricade.

???Despite repeated warning by our crew in our vehicles, (he) approached to within two feet of our vehicle,??? Col. Basinger said.

A gunner on one of the vehicles fired two warning shots, he said.

Due to the constant threat of suicide bombs, other vehicles are not allowed to get very close to Canadian vehicles, Col. Basinger said.

He said the local population has been warned repeatedly through signs and radio ads to steer clear of military trucks and armoured vehicles.

Suicide bombers have targeted Canadian military vehicles in the country several times, most recently on March 3. That attacked injured one soldier.

A Canadian diplomat was killed and three soldiers were wounded on Jan. 15 in another attack.

Col. Basinger said Canadian troops have been forced to fire warning shots near approaching vehicles 10 times in the past several months.

The independent Canadian Forces National Investigation Service is looking in to the incident, as are Afghan police.

A Canadian Forces medic treated the wounded man at the scene but said he did not consider the victim's injuries to be life-threatening.

???The wounds looked less grave than they actually were,??? he said. ???He was evacuated to hospital by Afghan National Police that were at the scene, but he died of his wounds.???

Col. Basinger said military officers were at the hospital trying to figure out exactly what happened, who was killed and to talk to the man's family.

source

oneandonly wrote on 3/13/2006 9:51:48 AM :
Its great that he supports the troops and that he went to see them. But I think the funniest thing is that when he went there, most were out on the biggest mission Canada has taken part in since we got there. Could have planned that one a bit better, perhaps just before the troops left rather than after? But like I said, its good that he supports the troops, thats one of the few areas where I agree with him
Student wrote on 3/13/2006 12:04:38 PM :

yeah, Afghanistan was a mess and is slowly getting better.

Just one note, US went there cuz of oil too. They wanted to build an oil pipe from Kazakhstan to Pakistan. Canada is there for mostly general foreign policy reasons.

The difference between Afghanistan and Iraq is the former doesn't look like modern day slavery and that's why there is actually some progress on the field.

Student wrote on 3/13/2006 12:06:30 PM :

oneandonly wrote:
Its great that he supports the troops and that he went to see them. But I think the funniest thing is that when he went there, most were out on the biggest mission Canada has taken part in since we got there. Could have planned that one a bit better, perhaps just before the troops left rather than after? But like I said, its good that he supports the troops, thats one of the few areas where I agree with him

whats do you disagree with Harper on? To me, he seems like a swell dude!

oneandonly wrote on 3/13/2006 3:07:17 PM :
After all, enforced national bilingualism in this country isn't mere policy. It has attained the status of a religion. It's a dogma which o-ne is supposed to accept without question.
Stephen Harper

And I think the real problem that we're facing already is that the government doesn't accept that it got a minority.
Stephen Harper

As a religion, bilingualism is the god that failed. It has led to no fairness, produced no unity, and cost Canadian taxpayers untold millions.
Stephen Harper

Atlantic Canada's culture of defeat will be hard to overcome as long as Atlantic Canada is actually physically trailing the rest of the country.
Stephen Harper

But I'm very libertarian in the sense that I believe in small government and, as a general rule, I don't believe in imposing values upon people.
Stephen Harper

But I've been very clear in this campaign - I don't believe the party should have a position on abortion.
Stephen Harper

Canada appears content to become a second-tier socialistic country, boasting ever more loudly about its economy and social services to mask its second-rate status.
Stephen Harper

Canada remains alienated from its allies, shut out of the reconstruction process to some degree, unable to influence events. There is no upside to the position Canada took.
Stephen Harper

Having hit a wall, the next logical step is not to bang our heads against it.
Stephen Harper

Human rights commissions, as they are evolving, are an attack o-n our fundamental freedoms and the basic existence of a democratic society... It is in fact totalitarianism. I find this is very scary stuff.
Stephen Harper

I do not intend to dispute in any way the need for defence cuts and the need for government spending cuts in general. ... I do not share a not in my backyard approach to government spending reductions.
Stephen Harper

I don't believe an Alliance government should sponsor legislation on abortion or a referendum on abortion.
Stephen Harper

I don't get into that second guessing of myself publicly.
Stephen Harper

I don't know all the facts o-n Iraq, but I think we should work closely with the Americans.
Stephen Harper

I have no difficulty with the recognition of civil unions for non-traditional relationships but I believe in law we should protect the traditional definition of marriage.
Stephen Harper

I think in Atlantic Canada, because of what happened in the decades following Confederation, there is a culture of defeat that we have to overcome.
Stephen Harper

I think the way to change it is to handle issues individually when it's essential to do so.
Stephen Harper

I think there is a dangerous rise in defeatist sentiment in this country. I have said that repeatedly, and I mean it and I believe it.
Stephen Harper

I will strive to make this not the highest-spending country in the world, but instead the lowest taxing o-ne.
Stephen Harper

I've always been clear, I support the traditional definition of marriage.
Stephen Harper

If Ottawa giveth, then Ottawa can taketh away.
Stephen Harper

If you want to be a government in a minority Parliament, you have to work with other people.
Stephen Harper

In my judgment Canada will eventually join with the allied coalition if war o-n Iraq comes to pass.
Stephen Harper

It is imperative to take the initiative, to build firewalls around Alberta, to limit the extent to which an aggressive and hostile federal government can encroach upon legitimate provincial jurisdiction.
Stephen Harper

It was the removing of a regime that was hostile, that clearly had the intention of constructing weapons systems.
Stephen Harper

It's the government's obligation to look really to the third parties to get the support to govern.
Stephen Harper

Make no mistake. Canada is not a bilingual country. In fact it is less bilingual today than it has ever been.
Stephen Harper

My own views on abortion, I'm not on either pole of that and neither of the interest groups on either end of this issue would probably be comfortable with my views.
Stephen Harper

On the justification for the war, it wasn't related to finding any particular weapon of mass destruction.
Stephen Harper

That's my personal view I would say most in my caucus agree with that but there are some who don't and I've always said that on these kinds of moral issues, people have the right to their own opinions.
Stephen Harper

The government can only be brought down because it alienates several parties in the House.
Stephen Harper

The government will join, notwithstanding its failure to prepare, its neglect in co-operating with its allies, or its inability to contribute. In the end it will join out of the necessity created by a pattern of uncertainty and indecision. It will not join as a leader but unnoticed at the back of the parade.
Stephen Harper

The Leader of the Opposition's constitutional obligation - the obligation to Parliament - it's the reason we did the merger! - is to make sure Canadians have an alternative for government.
Stephen Harper

The nature of our constitution is that everyone is supposed to be able to do their own thing in their own area of jurisdiction.
Stephen Harper

The world is now unipolar and contains o-nly o-ne superpower. Canada shares a continent with that superpower.
Stephen Harper

There is a Canadian culture that is in some ways unique to Canada, but I don't think Canadian culture coincides neatly with borders.
Stephen Harper

This party will not take its position based o-n public opinion polls. We will not take a stand based o-n focus groups. We will not take a stand based o-n phone-in shows or householder surveys or any other vagaries of pubic opinion.
Stephen Harper

Toryism has the historical context of hierarchy and elitism and is a different kind of political philosophy. It's not my favourite term, but we're probably stuck with it.
Stephen Harper

Universality has been severely reduced: it is virtually dead as a concept in most areas of public policy.
Stephen Harper

We have in this country a federal government that increasingly is engaged in trying to determine which business, which regions, which industries will succeed, which will not through a whole range of economic development, regional development corporate subsidization programs.
Stephen Harper

We should have been there shoulder to shoulder with our allies. Our concern is the instability of our government as an ally. We are playing again with national and global security matters.
Stephen Harper

Well there are lots of things that could bring the government down, but my opposition can not bring the government down.
Stephen Harper

What the government has to do, if it wants to govern for any length of time, is it must appeal primarily to the third parties in the House of Commons to get them to support it.
Stephen Harper 

Canada ends up Whetheras o-ne national government or two national governments or several national governments, or some other kind of arrangement is, quite frankly, secondary in my opinion.
Stephen Harper

You've got to remember that west of Winnipeg the ridings the Liberals hold are dominated by people who are either recent Asian immigrants or recent migrants from eastern Canada: people who live in ghettoes and who are not integrated into western Canadian society.
oneandonly wrote on 3/16/2006 9:11:29 AM :
Purported Taliban leader's statement warns of new offensive in Afghanistan

KANDAHAR, Afghanistan (AP-CP) -- A purported statement released Thursday by Taliban leader Mullah Omar claimed that large numbers of Afghans were signing up as suicide bombers and that an offensive in the next few months would cause many casualties among foreign and Afghan troops.

The statement was telephoned to Associated Press reporters in Kandahar and the Pakistani capital, Islamabad, by purported Taliban spokesman Mohammed Hanif and was then subsequently received by e-mail from an unidentified sender.

The two-page typed statement ended with a signature supposedly by the fugitive rebel leader. The former Taliban ambassador to Islamabad, Abdul Salam Zaeef, said that it resembled Omar's.

"Young Afghans are coming to mujahedeen camps in large numbers to enrol their names for suicide attacks," the statement said.

"This year, with the beginning of summer, Afghan soil will turn red for the crusaders and their puppets and the occupiers will face an unpredictable wave of Afghan resistance."

Statements attributed to Omar have been released every few months. The previous two -- one in January and the other in November -- also warned of increased attacks.

Interior Ministry spokesman Yousuf Stanezai dismissed Thursday's statement as propaganda and said the insurgents lacked the strength to launch a major new offensive.

Violence normally escalates at the start of Afghanistan's summer, which is several months away, as the snows melt on the high mountain passes that the insurgents use. Violence last year killed 1,600 people, the most since the Taliban was ousted in 2001.

The past six months has seen a wave of some 30 suicide bombings, but such attacks had been rare here. The Taliban commander in the country's south, Mullah Dadullah, said in December that some 200 people had registered for suicide attacks.

Thursday's statement predicted that 2006 will be "the year of success and victory for Muslims."

"Those who have attacked the holy soil of Islam and their puppets will face shameful defeat because Muslims now understand that Western infidels want to eliminate our beliefs, soil and culture and make us their puppets," the statement attributed to Omar said.

About 2,200 Canadian troops are stationed in southern Afghanistan. They are led by Canadian Brig.-Gen. David Fraser, who took command of a multinational brigade in the Kandahar region at the end of February.


oneandonly wrote on 3/20/2006 9:13:06 AM :

Afghanistan won't be 'Canada's Iraq': O'Connor

Updated Sun. Mar. 19 2006 2:34 PM ET

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Defence Minister Gordon O'Connor is adamant that there will be no vote on Canada's role in Afghanistan, even if that vote were to strengthen the Conservatives' mandate to continue that mission.

While Canadian troops have been in the nation since 2001, some have called for new debate as Canadian troops take on a more aggressive combat role that is at odds with Canada's more traditional role as peacekeepers.

However, O'Connor rejected that notion.

"Our policy is that if we take on a new venture in a different country, we will bring that forward to Parliament for a vote," the former general told CTV's Question Period Sunday.

"But this is a continuing commitment.  This started in December of 2001."

O'Connor noted that the Conservatives supported the previous Liberal government on three occasions when the Liberals made the initial decision to send troops.

Just weeks ago, most Canadians said they wouldn't personally vote in favour of putting troops in Afghanistan. But, a new poll released earlier this week in the wake of Prime Minister Stephen Harper's visit to the country, now finds a majority of Canadians back the mission even if they don't fully understand it.

The poll conducted by the Strategic Counsel for CTV and The Globe and Mail found that a modest but clear majority of Canadians -- 55 per cent -- now support the decision to send troops to Afghanistan. Only 41 per cent oppose the deployment.

O'Connor told Question Period that Canadians have grown to recognize the importance of Canada's role in Afghanistan.

"In the first instance we're there because it is in our national interests to be there because when that state was allowed to decay we had terrorists come over here to North America...

"We're also there because we're part of the world.  We've got to show some leadership in dealing with the world's problems.  The third reason we're there is because we need to help rebuild Afghanistan."

The defence minister insisted that Afghanistan would not become "Canada's Iraq" as some critics have suggested, and rejected criticisms that there is no exit strategy for Canadian troops.

O'Connor said that Canadian troops provide security and stability while Afghan military and police units can be trained.

"Once there's the battalions of police and army are trained well enough, they take over a province.  In fact, one of the provinces in now completely under the control of the Afghan army and the police. 

"So that's the way we're doing it, province by province.  We're creating stability, transition, and then exit."

Liberals and NDP disagree on need for new debate

Liberal Foreign Affairs Critic Stepahane Dion agreed that there should not be a vote.

"We are against a vote because we should not second-guess when we have an important mission...If there is a sense that we may leave because we have second-guessed, then (Afghans) will be afraid to see the Taliban come back and they will not cooperate with us," he told Question Period.

However, NDP critic Alexa McDonough said the changing nature of the Canadian mission made new debate important.

"I think we have to be very concerned at the growing concern among Canadians about unanswered questions -- about how this mission has changed, in fact, from what was originally anticipated.  This is not, as originally proposed, a NATO-led mission."