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ARE YOU IN THE FALSE CHURCH?

D.Y.R#7XTRUST wrote on 10/19/2006 5:45:34 PM :

Let's have a look at what that old devil is up to in his false church(s).

The greatest crime of false christianity is that they are deceiving souls into hell by leading them to believe that they are Christians when they have never even obeyed Acts 2:38.

Acts 2:38

Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

If you fall into the category of a false church and disagree, please tell us why?

Your response will be greatly appreciated.

mike6x5 wrote on 10/19/2006 8:49:46 PM :

I got a Jehovah thing in the mail today. Is that one of the so-called 'false churches'? They seem to think everyone else is in them.

D.Y.R#7XTRUST wrote on 10/19/2006 10:55:41 PM :

Yeah, the Jehovah Witnesses are without question one of the false churches.There are five important facts to remember about the Jehovah's Witnesses and the Watchtower Organization.

1. They have accepted the Organization as the Prophet of God.

2. They have accepted the Organization as God's sole channel for His truth.

3. They believe that to reject the Organization is to reject God.

4. They believe that only the Organization can interpret the Bible; as individuals they are unable to do so.

5. They believe the Watchtower Magazine contains God's truth, directed by Him, through the Organization

And fact number 3 confirms what you said, that the Jehovah Witnesses believe they are the only ones that hold the truth. BUT THIS IS WRONG AND I CAN GIVE PROOF TO WHOEVER WANTS IT!!

Thank you mike 6x5 for your question and statement.

BlinkeredKitten wrote on 10/20/2006 7:16:43 AM :

D.Y.R#7XTRUST wrote:

4. They believe that only the Organization can interpret the Bible; as individuals they are unable to do so.

Perhaps they're following the Scripture that tells us "In the mouth of two or three witnesses, let everything be established." Wink [;)]

Cautiouslizard wrote on 10/20/2006 8:14:52 AM :

Who is anyone to say someone is in a fasle church? Maybe yours is false but due to you being in it you wouldn't think so. What makes one church better than the other?

oldman wrote on 10/20/2006 9:48:00 AM :

it's all about a matter of free choice

willie c wuddle wrote on 10/20/2006 10:13:41 AM :

I think there is no such thing as a false church. A church is a man made place designed for a group of people to gather together to worship GOD. I can call my front porch or a park bench a church if that is my designated place to be with GOD. There may be false preachers and people blindly following them but their churches are very real. I can worship my GOD in a designated church, a kingdom hall, a park bench, or an open air market. They can all be real churches depending on the people who go there's relationship with GOD.

oldman wrote on 10/20/2006 10:16:25 AM :

you are right willie my hats off to you

Cautiouslizard wrote on 10/20/2006 10:17:41 AM :

willie c wuddle wrote:
I think there is no such thing as a false church. A church is a man made place designed for a group of people to gather together to worship GOD. I can call my front porch or a park bench a church if that is my designated place to be with GOD. There may be false preachers and people blindly following them but their churches are very real. I can worship my GOD in a designated church, a kingdom hall, a park bench, or an open air market. They can all be real churches depending on the people who go there's relationship with GOD.

Wave [wave] Good job willie

oldman wrote on 10/20/2006 10:28:30 AM :

once again willie is right

mike6x5 wrote on 10/20/2006 2:15:24 PM :

I don't necessarily agree with you on that, Willie. Mostly though.

How I define 'church' isn't necessarily by a physical building. For instance, the Catholic Church could mean the community of Catholics, the Baptist Church could be all Baptists, etc. I don't necessarily think you have to actually go to a man-made church building to be a member of the Church, if you know what I mean.

willie c wuddle wrote on 10/20/2006 2:22:02 PM :

Woludn't the group of people be called a congregation? I think I see what you're getting at, though.

Faulty wrote on 10/20/2006 2:26:37 PM :

the arrogance of religion never ceases to amaze me.

mike6x5 wrote on 10/20/2006 2:28:52 PM :

Faulty wrote:
the arrogance of religion never ceases to amaze me.

I hope you didn't mean me. It's never my intention to come off as arrogant.

Cautiouslizard wrote on 10/20/2006 2:34:39 PM :

mike6x5 wrote:

Faulty wrote:
the arrogance of religion never ceases to amaze me.

I hope you didn't mean me. It's never my intention to come off as arrogant.

Naw I think he just meant religion itself and how some will take more offence and deffend they're beliefs like it's the only one everyone should believe

Faulty wrote on 10/20/2006 2:43:05 PM :

mike6x5 wrote:

Faulty wrote:
the arrogance of religion never ceases to amaze me.

I hope you didn't mean me. It's never my intention to come off as arrogant.

No, I was referring to the OP

notme wrote on 10/20/2006 3:30:54 PM :

a false church would be a church that teaches doctrine that is against the 10 commandment ......

all others churches should be ok

D.Y.R#7XTRUST wrote on 10/20/2006 5:56:10 PM :

Listen to this PLEASE!!!!!!!

http://www.thesearchforbiblicaltruth.org/the_lukewarm_church.mp3

mike6x5 wrote on 10/20/2006 2:26:48 PM :

Hey Willie....just for the heck of it, and out of curiousity myself, I looked it up:

church??? /t????rt??/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[church] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation

???noun

1.	a building for public Christian worship.

2.	public worship of God or a religious service in such a building: to attend church regularly.

3.	(sometimes initial capital letter) the whole body of Christian believers; Christendom.

4.	(sometimes initial capital letter) any division of this body professing the same creed and acknowledging the same ecclesiastical authority; a Christian denomination: the Methodist Church.

5.	that part of the whole Christian body, or of a particular denomination, belonging to the same city, country, nation, etc.

6.	a body of Christians worshipping in a particular building or constituting one congregation: She is a member of this church.

7.	ecclesiastical organization, power, and affairs, as distinguished from the state: separation of church and state; The missionary went wherever the church sent him.

8.	the clergy and religious officials of a Christian denomination.

9.	the Christian faith: a return of intellectuals to the church.

10.	(initial capital letter) the Christian Church before the Reformation.

11.	(initial capital letter) the Roman Catholic Church.

12.	the clerical profession or calling: After much study and contemplation, he was prepared to enter the church.

13.	a place of public worship of a non-Christian religion.

14.	any non-Christian religious society, organization, or congregation: the Jewish church.

???verb (used with object)

15.	to conduct or bring to church, esp. for special services.

16.	South Midland and Southern U.S.. to subject to church discipline.

17.	to perform a church service of thanksgiving for (a woman after childbirth).

So I guess #3 fits the bill best as to what I was meaning. Maybe. LOL

Like I said one other time, I ain't no wordsmith! ;)

willie c wuddle wrote on 10/20/2006 2:33:21 PM :

17 definitions for church. Somehow laying on the couch watching the football game on TV sounds a whole lot simpler.

D.Y.R#7XTRUST wrote on 10/20/2006 6:11:35 PM :

You are right Willie, the place of worship can be your front porch,park bench, designated church, kingdom hall or open market. But what I am simply stating is this, that a false church is one that does not preach on the foundation of Acts 2:38, which is (1.)repentance (2.)Salvation through Christ. Because the true CHURCH is the believer not the building. That being stated, a church is then false if they DO NOT believe in Salvation through Christ and repentance.

That may be the entire building or individual.

THANK YOU

Follower of Christ

willie c wuddle wrote on 10/20/2006 6:41:11 PM :

I'm going to church tomorrow. (The one with the new permit). Big Smile [:D]