This is a public apology from me to BibleThumper. We have exchanged several private e-mails, and now I'd like to set the record straight for all of you.

Thumper and I actually have much in common. Yes, I am a Christian. I chose to come in and stir things up because a friend of mine was offended by Thumper's posting.

I still don't necessarily agree with the way Thumper presents the Bible, but we have agreed to civilly disagree. I will still be participating in debates, and from time to time I may challenge Thumper to be sure he knows why he believes what he believes. I gotta tell you, though ... when you've been raised by the Bible, it's awfully hard to argue from the other side! LOL!!

Have a nice weekend, all ... the weather's great! Now back to debates. :-)

 

I also want to say that I repent (turn from) offending and misunderstanding KittyKat here on the Forum and also some others whom I may have offended inadvertently.

I ask that you, Kitten, would forgive me for misunderstanding your words and challenges; I completely took your words in a manner in which they were never meant to be taken.

Exchanging PM's with you has given me an understanding of who you are and where you're coming from, as we both share similar backgrounds in some aspects.

Also, to those others whom I do not agree with on theological issues, I ask your forgivness for possibly coming at you in a manner which has offended you.

I will never, cannot and refuse to change my message; however, I also take note that some of you have been offended at the WAY in which it has been presented.

I ask you to forgive me.

This really is a great Forum with many varying ideas and views, and though I cannot and will not and resfuse to bow to any other One than Jesus Christ Himself, I also take note that you catch more flies with honey than with vinegar.

I want you to know that we Chritsians are NOT perfect, we do NOT believe we are better than others...we are simply as passionate about the God who is Real and Saved us as many are their idols; the onlyh difference is that BECAUSE we believe and know the Bible to be the Truth we do not compromise that message....this is the very essense of Christianity, that there is but One God, One Way and One Lord, whose Name is Jesus and who takes wrteched men and women and transforms their hearts.

So, now that we got that outta the way, lemme say one more thingy here:

I'm not going to stop talking about and glorifying Jesus.

I also am not going to ask that anyone here stop talking about what they believe.

I simply ask that no one cuss Jesus with "F" words, as I also will present my case for Jesus Christ in a manner which is consistent with the Spirit of God in convicting power.

Dan

Chin, chin, I'll drink to that one.

Amen.

Gosh... I feel better now.

Please do not make me have to go down there or call for Dad.    

                                                

so he can flood you out killyou or turn you in a statue of salt  if you do not listen   ....i am a good god and a god with mercy !!!

One key to getting along well with people is knowing when to say you're sorry. Sometimes little comments or actions can hurt or offend others, even when you don't mean to. The little things can add up. It doesn't take long for someone to hold a grudge and for grudges to grow into conflicts. In most cases, if someone is offended by something you do or say, it's much better to apologize right away. That solves the small problem and keeps it from getting bigger.

It's hard to apologize. Many of us are ashamed or have too much pride. Sometimes we just don't know how to do it.

I'm sarry! I'm drunk, too.

Dear Bible Thumper,

This message is just to convey my sincere apology for any profanity I may have spouted at you.

But please stop p***ing me off.

Sincerely,

Celeste

Unless anybody walks into this forum and kills me no apoligies will be asked for nor be accepted by me. I love this site.

I was taught that apologies are important for etiquette reasons. Apology and forgiveness go hand in hand and are two sides of the same coin. They reflect the constructive ways the oppressors and the oppressed in an  conflict can come to grips with the pain and suffering their conflict may have produced.

By the same token, you have to find the space in your heart to forgive those who offended or hurt you, even though the pain and suffering will never disappear.

Likewise we must understand that forgiving is just as important as apologizing in any society  which wishes to create a more peaceful and cooperative future.

Generally, offenses are committed by both sides in most intractable conflicts. As a result, there is a need, for all parties to make apologies and grant forgiveness. I realize that is tough in todays society to do, but you must consider it for your own peace of mind.

Nonetheless, because most disputes are "asymmetric" in the sense that one side has a lot more power than the other, the burden of apologizing tends to lie primarily with one side and that of forgiving with the other.

It is not easy, however, to apologize or forgive. As with everything involving reconciliation, apologizing and forgiving are, at their core, acts only individuals can perform. But if your words are only empty rhetoric forgiveness will never be achieved.

An apology has to be heartfelt and reflect true remorse for ones actions.

...and if what I said doesn't inspire you, a dozen roses may!

willie c wuddle wrote:

Unless anybody walks into this forum and kills me no apoligies will be asked for nor be accepted by me. I love this site.

OOOPS...........In my poopeyed state I tried to say that nobody here ever has to opoligise to me for their opinions. I love this site and accept all responsibility for reading other people's opinions whether or not I agree with them.

While I agree with you Willie, sometimes if we think we have offend the offender we are the ones who must apologize. BS. I don't see him apologising to anyone for calling many of you sinners.

I am sot sorry for anything I say. If you don't like what I say bypass it. Afterall, there's a lot to here and reply to.

So for now kiss off!

BillyBob wrote:

While I agree with you Willie, sometimes if we think we have offend the offender we are the ones who must apologize. BS. I don't see him apologising to anyone for calling many of you sinners.

I am sot sorry for anything I say. If you like what I say bypass it. Afterall, there's a lot to here and reply to.

So for now kiss off!

I also am a sinner.... and thankful for God's Grace.

Must I aplogize for calling ALL of us what we are?

No.

Dan

YET MORE EXCUSES.EXCUSES ARE USELESS!

Oneandonly, you seem to be the "excuse man" here... you make so many excuses for racists talk, Jesus Hatred and sin.

Amen  this chapter is boring

 

I MAKE EXCUSES FOR NOTHING   !NOR DO I FEEL THE NEED TO .

oneandonly wrote:

I MAKE EXCUSES FOR NOTHING   !NOR DO I FEEL THE NEED TO .

You do not "feel" you need to repent or exuse yourself from being a racist?

Here's your quote, partially, as all of it is plain disgusting; this part just happens to deal with a RACE:

Oneandonly Said As A "Joke":  Then they saw a rabbi enter the brothel...

It amazes me how you can avoid admitting that such words as these ARE racist, as they speak negatively of  a RACE.

So, yes, you need to repent.

I don't think that telling rabbi jokes id being racist as long as a person jokes fairly about everybody equally including a person's self. To joke about everybody and leave out a group of people would be in itself a form of racism. I joke around about everybody. I'll admit I am a bit reluctant at telling Newfie jokes to Newfoundlanders because the Newfie jokes they tell are way usually way better than mine.

PS     I try not to joke around with short people because the punch lines go over their heads.

There's a saying and it goes...F**k yah if you can't take a joke. Life is too short to be so serious.

There's a saying that goes something like "do you kiss your mom with that mouth?"It's not about arguing but about respect.You don;t like being told to repent or whatever but can't you respect that some people don't like cuss words?I mean if you want respect then be courteous enough to show some

newsong wrote:

There's a saying that goes something like "do you kiss your mom with that mouth?"It's not about arguing but about respect.You don;t like being told to repent or whatever but can't you respect that some people don't like cuss words?I mean if you want respect then be courteous enough to show some

 

AMEN to that Newsong! I couldn't agree more.

and celeste says we christians have no fun but look at those nice little swear words.keep your fun we don't want it

Please stop arguing and fighting. Show some love and respect to one and another. Stop dragging me into the middle of all your disputes. I'm a very busy man up here and still have a lot of work to do. Please do not make me have to go down there or call for Dad.    

                                                     Mr J.

You JC...sometimes that is just what I want to say but you seem to have a way with words, you tell them.

Stop the Jesus fighting you all...or wiat till you father gets home...remember that silly show?

Anybody, Willie, Oneandonly, anybody, Starry, help a brother out.

personally im sick and tired of the feuding as well.

Punk wrote:

You JC...sometimes that is just what I want to say but you seem to have a way with words, you tell them.

Stop the Jesus fighting you all...or wiat till you father gets home...remember that silly show?

Anybody, Willie, Oneandonly, anybody, Starry, help a brother out.

Always willing to help a person out. Which way did you come in....hee hee. Sorry, I couldn't resist that one.

Hey, don't leave in a huff. Leave in a minute and a huff.
??? Groucho Marx

I'll huff, and I'll puff and I'll blow your church down...opps, I meant house down. I came in the front door always. You?

If you put your hands in the praying position...palm to palm.
Then, let your fingers pass to the other hand - inside your palms.
Raise your index fingers and touch tip to tip.
Place your thumbs parallel to each other.
Now, in a soft voice begin to sing..

This little light of mine,
I'm gonna let it shine.
This little light of mine,
I'm gonna let it shine.....

STOP!

Now, in a low voice, say:
Here is my church,
Here is the steeple,
(Invert your hands)
Look inside and see all the people.

Your church is in you. N'est-ce pas?