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Male.

The word God, Theos, is a male.

The word Spirit, Pneuma, is neither male nor female.

The word Jesus, obviously, is male.

We also see that Jesus was a male of 33 years when he died on the Cross for wicked sinners.

We see also that the Holy Spirit is referred to as male when Jsus called the Spirit "He", in John.

However, apart from the BODY of Jesus, who is Himself God, God is a Spirit, meaning neitrher male nor female.

oldman wrote on 9/23/2006 3:03:24 PM :

i did not want a definition.there is no one alive that has ever seen god so therefore no one can say god is a man or a woman it is a debate that no one can answer truthfully.it's up to what each person wants to believe.

WWJD wrote on 9/23/2006 3:05:50 PM :

oldman wrote:
it's up to what each person wants to believe.

That's called Relativism, meaning you believe what YOU want.

If that were the case, what if someone wanted to believe rape or child molestation was "ok?

You couldn;t fight them, because you JUST SAID it' sup to us what WE want to believe.

Relativism is dangerous.

I believe what is TRUE and what is NOT TRUE.

There's no such thing as "whatever YOU believe is ok".

sass wrote on 9/23/2006 3:10:25 PM :

WWJD wrote:
oldman wrote:
it's up to what each person wants to believe.

That's called Relativism, meaning you believe what YOU want.

If that were the case, what if someone wanted to believe rape or child molestation was "ok?

You couldn;t fight them, because you JUST SAID it' sup to us what WE want to believe.

Relativism is dangerous.

I believe what is TRUE and what is NOT TRUE.

There's no such thing as "whatever YOU believe is ok".

let me help rephrase what oldman I am sure meant ...Believe what you want as long as it is not hurting another

WWJD wrote on 9/23/2006 3:12:18 PM :

What if someone else says child molestation, in THEIR belief, is not 'hurting another"?

I mean, you said "believe what YOU want".

So if someone believes that, then you really have no basis to debate them.

A sick pervert could use this logic to justify evil.

So, it's safer and mor elogical to believe what is true than to believe what you WANT.

sass wrote on 9/23/2006 3:13:38 PM :

WWJD

Don't you think you are taking it a little far with this..you know damm well what he meant, you are an intelligent person

WWJD wrote on 9/23/2006 3:16:06 PM :

sass wrote:
WWJD

Don't you think you are taking it a little far with this..you know damm well what he meant, you are an intelligent person

I know HE meant that; but the basis for this logic is still Relativism and it CAN DEFINATELY allow people to comitt sick acts using thsi logic.

sass wrote on 9/23/2006 3:17:22 PM :

WWJD wrote:
sass wrote:

WWJD

Don't you think you are taking it a little far with this..you know damm well what he meant, you are an intelligent person

I know HE meant that; but the basis for this logic is still Relativism and it CAN DEFINATELY allow people to comitt sick acts using thsi logic.

I am not denying that what everyone believes is not always right...but you attacking his comment in the context he used was not related

WWJD wrote on 9/23/2006 3:18:49 PM :

sass wrote:
WWJD wrote:
sass wrote:

WWJD

Don't you think you are taking it a little far with this..you know damm well what he meant, you are an intelligent person

I know HE meant that; but the basis for this logic is still Relativism and it CAN DEFINATELY allow people to comitt sick acts using thsi logic.

I am not denying that what everyone believes is not always right...but you attacking his comment in the context he used was not related

I didn;t attack his comment, sass.

What are you talking about?

I said it was called "relativism" which anyone who went to school and presently does knows of.

It's a classroom statement I made, sass.

spyn wrote on 9/23/2006 3:12:58 PM :

See the problem with that is that a pedophile doesn't actually believe they're hurting the child. So if they beleive it's ok and in their mind it's not hurting anyone then would that still make it ok. That is what Relativism is.

WWJD wrote on 9/23/2006 3:17:31 PM :

spyn wrote:
See the problem with that is that a pedophile doesn't actually believe they're hurting the child. So if they beleive it's ok and in their mind it's not hurting anyone then would that still make it ok. That is what Relativism is.

Correct; they "believe" it's ok.

They have a PERSONAL belief, not based on any fioundational TRUTH, which makes it relativism.

It's the same with saying, "MY" belief is.....

notme wrote on 9/23/2006 3:01:05 PM :

WWJD wrote:
Notme said: well all this just proves to me that God is not perfect since he takes fit of rage just like us humans ,he calls people names and he sometimes does even worse he retaliates

You see? You said it proves TO YOU.

It doesn;t matter what YOU think or what i MYSELF think.

What matters is that God's hatred is holy and perfect.

God's anger is holy and perfect.

Did you think God was a sissy?

haha.

He's G-O-D

He can retaliate, love, hate, and do anything he wants, because he's G-O-D.

Is it fair?

He's G-O-D.

I don;t question God; I fear Him.

now i heard everything hate can be holy and perfect well i think we better start changing some laws in this country and make hate legal and retaliation also

WWJD wrote on 9/23/2006 3:03:03 PM :

I hate pedophelia...do you call that a "bad" hatred?

I hate prostitution... do you call that a "bad" hatred?

I hate crack cocaine...do you call that a "bad" hatred?

You have your values mixed up quite badly, notme.

Either that, or you have a low grasp on what harted is.

notme wrote on 9/23/2006 3:05:53 PM :

so in god "s name you hate them so much that instead of helping those people you would retaliate against them and call them names ...

WWJD wrote on 9/23/2006 3:07:03 PM :

notme wrote:
so in god "s name you hate them so much that instead of helping those people you would retaliate against them and call them names ...

Nope.

I'll help anyone I can help if it's in my power to do so.

I said I hate the THINGS, not the PEOPLE.

Go back and re read.

notme wrote on 9/23/2006 3:13:45 PM :

WWJD wrote:
notme wrote:

so in god "s name you hate them so much that instead of helping those people you would retaliate against them and call them names ...

Nope.

I'll help anyone I can help if it's in my power to do so.

I said I hate the THINGS, not the PEOPLE.

Go back and re read.

to be truthfull i knew the answer

but the way you are saying it comes out the other way since God retaliated against people that did not believe in him and his comandments instead of trying to help them

just in case you think it about you

it not you that i am contradicting it the way the bible discrives certain events it does not make sense since God is suppose to be allmighty Good and he retaliates

WWJD wrote on 9/23/2006 3:15:09 PM :

God always FIRST asks people, lovingly, if they will submit to Him and to His Word.

notme wrote on 9/23/2006 3:21:12 PM :

so in other word God is saying do as i say not as i do

since we are not allowed to retaliate even if we talk to the persons involved

WWJD wrote on 9/23/2006 3:23:02 PM :

notme wrote:
so in other word God is saying do as i say not as i do

since we are not allowed to retaliate even if we talk to the persons involved

In some cases yes.

Our hatred is not holy and just; His is.

We pray for our enemies and he deals with them, either by negative punihsment or by saving them.

God is GOD, friend.

notme wrote on 9/23/2006 3:26:07 PM :

then to me in that case He is not perfect since he has hatred because hatred is a sin

oldman wrote on 9/23/2006 3:27:00 PM :

what is the exact name of the church you are a member of

WWJD wrote on 9/23/2006 3:33:12 PM :

oldman wrote:
what is the exact name of the church you are a member of

I prefer not to release that on a forum :)

WWJD wrote on 9/23/2006 3:33:50 PM :

I'm a bapticostal though :)

oldman wrote on 9/23/2006 3:40:05 PM :

whow imagine that a man of god that does not want his people to know he belongs to a church.well sorry but i'm no ashamed to say what church i am a member of

WWJD wrote on 9/23/2006 3:41:17 PM :

oldman wrote:
whow imagine that a man of god that does not want his people to know he belongs to a church.well sorry but i'm no ashamed to say what church i am a member of

Highfield Baptist :)

Not ashamed at all.

It's my church which gives the clothing away, has free dinners for the poor and works with prostitutes and drug addicts.

WWJD wrote on 9/23/2006 3:42:54 PM :

h, notme...

have you seen my Pastor's car?

Have you seen the debt of the church?

Have you seen my pastor give himself, his money and his time to the sick and LITERALLY dying?

Have you seen him go to hospitals and pray for my sick friend;'s son who doesn;t attend our church?

have you seen my pastor deny himself so he can see others filled?

No you haven;t.

notme wrote on 9/23/2006 3:45:57 PM :

WWJD wrote:
h, notme...

have you seen my Pastor's car?

Have you seen the debt of the church?

Have you seen my pastor give himself, his money and his time to the sick and LITERALLY dying?

Have you seen him go to hospitals and pray for my sick friend;'s son who doesn;t attend our church?

have you seen my pastor deny himself so he can see others filled?

No you haven;t.

well who knows maybe he is one of a kind because most of them feed of their parish

WWJD wrote on 9/23/2006 3:49:01 PM :

Yes, he is.

Pastor Steeper was a missionary in Albania for 9 years before coming here in 2004.

pastor steeper had his life threatened in Albania... yet he continued to work with the poor and dying.

last night we had a ten thousand miles store sale at church fo rthe Third World countries who are starving.

pastor john steeper is AMAZING.

The man is one of a kind.

oldman wrote on 9/23/2006 3:50:31 PM :

well guess what wwjd i have met him

WWJD wrote on 9/23/2006 3:51:48 PM :

oldman wrote:
well guess what wwjd i have met him

I know

So again, he's amazing

notme wrote on 9/23/2006 4:02:36 PM :

yes i met him once while doing some work there

but this part i do not agree with

last night we had a ten thousand miles store sale at church fo rthe Third World countries who are starving.

because i know of some people right here in Canada that needs help

WWJD wrote on 9/23/2006 4:04:23 PM :

Albania emplyees make about a dollar a day, with NO assistance from the government.

The living expenses are the same, basically.

So, I DO agree with this.

Also, our church REGULARY feeds the poor, once per month.

And my church clothes them.

We do what we CAN; we CANNOT, however, feed the country.

So, we feed as many as we can with what we have.

How about you donate some clothing to us? or some food?

We can use all the help we can get.

spyn wrote on 9/23/2006 4:07:12 PM :

well I would donate if you would tell me when I could drop off those bags. I only go on that street during very light traffic times though cause that street scares me... Big Smile [:D]

hehehe

WWJD wrote on 9/23/2006 4:09:20 PM :

spyn wrote:
well I would donate if you would tell me when I could drop off those bags. I only go on that street during very light traffic times though cause that street scares me... hehehe

Oh yeah! haha

I asked Pastor john and he said, "Anytime at all.We're here".

:) lol

notme wrote on 9/23/2006 4:12:26 PM :

WWJD wrote:
Albania emplyees make about a dollar a day, with NO assistance from the government.

The living expenses are the same, basically.

So, I DO agree with this.

Also, our church REGULARY feeds the poor, once per month.

And my church clothes them.

We do what we CAN; we CANNOT, however, feed the country.

So, we feed as many as we can with what we have.

How about you donate some clothing to us? or some food?

We can use all the help we can get.

well maybe from now on i will donate to your church instead of the salvation army and house of nazareth

oldman wrote on 9/23/2006 4:15:28 PM :

wwjd i was told by the pastor of you church that they do not run a food bank sorry

WWJD wrote on 9/23/2006 4:18:30 PM :

oldman wrote on 9/23/2006 4:21:50 PM :

the groceries for that family were appreciated just that in you post you said they help people every month well that statement sounds like they run a food bank and i was told that was not so.wel if you and them confused me well you suceeded

WWJD wrote on 9/23/2006 4:24:06 PM :

oldman wrote on 9/23/2006 4:25:42 PM :

not trying to offend anyone simply stating what i was told.

WWJD wrote on 9/23/2006 4:31:16 PM :

oldman wrote on 9/23/2006 4:34:43 PM :

sorry just stating what i was told.as for where the groceries for that family came from well i figured that part out on my own

spyn wrote on 9/23/2006 4:39:45 PM :

oldman wrote:
sorry just stating what i was told.as for where the groceries for that family came from well i figured that part out on my own

Look, why don't you just drop it. If that family needs help then tell them to go to the food bank, or social services or whatever. Normal people take on jobs they don't like in order to pay the bills and put food on the table. They don't harrass a church to put food on the table for them. So smarten up and get a life.

Must need more coffee...

notme wrote on 9/23/2006 4:42:54 PM :

spyn wrote:

oldman wrote:
sorry just stating what i was told.as for where the groceries for that family came from well i figured that part out on my own

Look, why don't you just drop it. If that family needs help then tell them to go to the food bank, or social services or whatever. Normal people take on jobs they don't like in order to pay the bills and put food on the table. They don't harrass a church to put food on the table for them. So smarten up and get a life.

Must need more coffee...

well i do not agree with your statement unless you know the whole story

...

maybe those people came into a sudden bad luck like sickness ,sudden layoff ,, unexpected big (usefull) expense who knows we cannot judge evryone by what most do

spyn wrote on 9/23/2006 4:44:50 PM :

maybe i should state that i know the whole family and have for years.

notme wrote on 9/23/2006 4:46:17 PM :

oldman wrote on 9/23/2006 4:48:36 PM :

in this family that wwjd was talking about you don't know what it's about or who they are because it is not me or my immediate family.

notme wrote on 9/23/2006 4:49:58 PM :

hehe i know it notme

spyn wrote on 9/23/2006 4:50:53 PM :

no, well it seems to me that you're the one always trying to get free stuff from him. and now you're bugging him for food as well.

hehe nice one notme :)

oldman wrote on 9/23/2006 4:54:24 PM :

get your facts straight i have only asked dan for help for this family and that is the end of this discussion as far as i am concerned.only dan and i know the true facts in this case

spyn wrote on 9/23/2006 4:58:20 PM :

Ok, if you've only asked once then why is it his pastor had to tell you they don't run a food bank. Seems he'd help anyone at least once. You're always on here asking for free stuff, maybe you should try giving a little or at least offering people money. Might not look quite so bad on you. Also I remember the remarks you made about $50 in another post and how you made a joke about WWJD lending you money. If you'd left it there it would've ben fine but noooo, you had to keep pushing and pushing. Anyone reading it would have come to the same conclusion I did.

As I said before, grow up and get a life. Quit bugging people for free stuff.

notme wrote on 9/23/2006 5:00:46 PM :

shhhh now kids behave or i will take the comps away

spyn wrote on 9/23/2006 5:03:51 PM :

notme wrote:
shhhh now kids behave or i will take the comps away

hahaha can you at least wait till next week when my new one's built?..pleeeeeaaaaaaaasssssssseeeee?

notme wrote on 9/23/2006 5:05:35 PM :

no put the comp away NOW you too oldman

spyn wrote on 9/23/2006 5:09:03 PM :

oh but, but, i said please. maybe pretty please, with whipped cream, and a cherry on top. Now who could resist that?

Oh and Blinkered, I love you..You're so awesome to make peace among us heathens lmao

oldman wrote on 9/23/2006 5:09:19 PM :

well notme i'm willing to drop it on my part cosider it dropped closed or ended

notme wrote on 9/23/2006 5:12:20 PM :

good now let call a truce ??? (wonder if it the right word)

oldman wrote on 9/23/2006 5:15:13 PM :

on my part the truce is noe signed

WWJD wrote on 9/23/2006 5:17:41 PM :

spyn wrote on 9/23/2006 6:00:23 PM :

Ok, now after letting this cool for a bit, let's get back to the original topic...hehe

The answer to the question for me is NO. I don't have Jesus. I don't attend a church, I have broken everyone of them commandments at least once in my life, and some I do on a daily basis.

I have morals though. I love my family, I honour my parents ( my mom now) I stick up for what the Bible teaches as right though not because I beleive in God but because I beleive it teaches alot of good morals.

I get mean when I don't have my coffee, and I hold a grudge my whole life if I feel it's justified. Bad mouthing my family is justification in my book. Wink [;)] Though not the only reason I have.

I give everyone a chance but I don't feel I need to give more then one just because a book tells me to. The Bible in my opinion is just that, a book. I'm not saying there is no God at all, but maybe it's not the one that is written of in the Bible. The Bible is taken differently by so many different religions that it makes it easy to see that someone was really messing with your head when it was re-written.

Now I've had my coffee so that's my thought for the day on religion. Big Smile [:D]

oneandonly wrote on 9/23/2006 6:07:06 PM :

CAN WE GO BACK TO THE WHIPPED CREAM AND CHERRIES? Wave Towel [towel]

spyn wrote on 9/23/2006 6:14:30 PM :

with chocolate sauce?..

oneandonly wrote on 9/23/2006 6:21:49 PM :

AND SPRINKLES tongue4 [tongue4]

WWJD wrote on 9/23/2006 6:23:12 PM :

You know, oneandonly, i think you and I are a little alike... we're both stubborn, but I also know that you most likely respect and are searching for God as much as I am :)

He's not far away :)

oneandonly wrote on 9/23/2006 6:47:36 PM :

ACTUALLY THE

COVERED IN WHIP CREAM AND CHOCOLATE SAUCE WITH SPRINKLES AND CHERRIES KINDA HAD MY ATTENTION .BUT HEY,WHATEVER TWIRLS YER CURLS THERE BUBBA.

WWJD wrote on 9/24/2006 12:34:49 PM :

It's time to come to the Lord, oneandonly.

WWJD wrote on 9/23/2006 6:14:18 PM :

The answer to the question for me is NO. I don't have Jesus.

RESPONSE: You can have Jesus though... because He not only asks you to come, He WANTS you to come, to be His friend and for Him to be your's.

I have broken everyone of them commandments at least once in my life, and some I do on a daily basis.

RESPONSE: It's only natural to break the Commandments in daily life....you said "I don't have Jesus", so, naturally, you can't keep the Oldest Commandments in "The Book"... and neither can I, if I don;t lean on Jesus...NO ONE can, admittedly so, without the Grace Jesus gives.

I have morals though.

RESPONSE: I believe you do... and I believe God gave them to you; it's our conscience which guides our moral basis...

I stick up for what the Bible teaches as right though not because I beleive in God but because I beleive it teaches alot of good morals.

RESPONSE: Yes, it teaches good morals; it also tells us about a loving God who came and died for the very ones who nailed Him to the Cross... The morals He tells of in His Word come from His own heart and intentions for man... even His enemies the majority of the time.

I get mean when I don't have my coffee

RESPONSE: I do too sometimes Sad [:(]

I hold a grudge my whole life if I feel it's justified.

RESPONSE: God also doesn, if it's justified, meaning if we refuse to love Him as He loves us and walk in the morality of what he gave us in Scripture...

I give everyone a chance but I don't feel I need to give more then one just because a book tells me to.

RESPONSE: I agree somewhat; I don;t always do the right thing because the Bible "tells me to"...I do it because the GOD of the Bible gives me the Grace... and believe me, I mess up often and have to ask forgivness to the ones who have offended ME! That's just like that Lord at times! He'll ask ME to seek the forgiveness of those who hurt ME initially! He's THAT loving towards His enemies!

The Bible in my opinion is just that, a book.

RESPONSE: If you come to Christ, you'll then see the Bible is much mor ethan "just a book"... it's God's Word to YOU and to YOU personally! I mean, God gave Spyn HIS Word, JUST for you! But the key to unlocking that Word is in the turning TO God.... But you'll never know the Book until you FIRST ask the Author about it

I'm not saying there is no God at all, but maybe it's not the one that is written of in the Bible.

RESPONSE: Glad you're at least considerate of the existence of God :)

The Bible is taken differently by so many different religions that it makes it easy to see that someone was really messing with your head when it was re-written.

RESPONSE: It was translated so many different times! You're right! That said, the Bible itself speaks of ONE version, and that version is what we call the TR (Textus Receptus), the very Bible which the Early Church used.... it's the "Received Text", known to be used in Antioch, where Believers were first called Christians.I believe in ONE version, the King james, because it's based on the writings of the FIRST CENTURY Church... so I don't believe the other versions are good at all :)

Now I've had my coffee so that's my thought for the day on religion.

RESPONSE: Glad you're searching in your own way... I think God will take you at your search if you're searching sincerely and wholeheartedly.

God bless you Spyn

oldman wrote on 9/23/2006 5:00:58 PM :

well sorry i'm not the only one posting asking for stuff so why don't you bug them because you are not getting anywhere with me

spyn wrote on 9/23/2006 5:05:11 PM :

oldman wrote:
well sorry i'm not the only one posting asking for stuff so why don't you bug them because you are not getting anywhere with me

Show me all the ads where people are asking for free stuff. Not the ones where they are offering to pay. 99% of them will be yours I imagine.

BlinkeredKitten wrote on 9/23/2006 5:08:39 PM :

QQQQQQQQUUUUUUUUUUIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEETTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!

Or - if you're into reverse psychology as my Dad was - fight! fight! I hate peace!

I think the point being made was this:

Anybody who NEEDS help shouldn't feel guilty about asking for it.

Anyone who makes a HABIT of asking for help can easily be seen as lazy.

Anyone who FIGHTS about not GETTING help has progressed from lazy to obnoxious.

Anyone who DOES help out of the goodness of their heart is probably a saint.

Anyone who allows themselves to be USED is dumb.

And anyone who helps for the sake of PUBLICITY is someone to avoid, whether you need the help or not.

FINALLY ... public forums shouldn't be used to discuss who asked for help, who gave it, or why. Simply because instead of please, thank you, and other "manners" words, it turns into a heated discussion too easily.

Jesus came to be a peacemaker. Got Jesus, anyone? Big Smile [:D]

spyn wrote on 9/23/2006 4:20:08 PM :

oldman wrote:
wwjd i was told by the pastor of you church that they do not run a food bank sorry

Even a food bank only allows you to go once a month and it's based on your income. If the don't feel you're unable to afford food, they won't give you any either.

notme wrote on 9/23/2006 4:26:45 PM :

gee all this time i thought it was based at if you drink or smoke your money you get help sorry

WWJD wrote on 9/23/2006 4:32:14 PM :

WWJD wrote on 9/23/2006 4:33:02 PM :

Back on topic:

Jesus Christ can save anyone, regardless of the sin.

Call on Him.

notme wrote on 9/23/2006 4:39:53 PM :

spyn wrote:

oldman wrote:
wwjd i was told by the pastor of you church that they do not run a food bank sorry

Even a food bank only allows you to go once a month and it's based on your income. If the don't feel you're unable to afford food, they won't give you any either.

my answer was for this wwjd

WWJD wrote on 9/23/2006 4:15:46 PM :

For real, notme, Highfield Baptist is quite a place.

The pastor LIVED in a country filled with anarchy and civil unrest.

He lived among the poorest of the poor.

I believe this is why Pastor Steeper is such a godly and honest man; because he's been where most of us have never been.

The man is truly a Man of God.

And oh, notme, I'm sorry for being a bit harsh in the beginning; I saw your post as pretty rude, but I think my response was not appropriate; I apologize publically.

notme wrote on 9/23/2006 4:20:29 PM :

apology accepted

BlinkeredKitten wrote on 9/23/2006 4:14:31 PM :

WWJD, you've come a long way, and I'm proud of you! (Not that that counts for a lot these days!) You're learning to recognize when it's time to give a little. ;-)

Spinny, you're not actually seeing both sides of an argument?!?! Stick out tongue [:P]

Oldman, if you're going to tell people it's none of their business where your church is or how often you attend, you really shouldn't expect others to tell you that info. I just found out recently who exactly you are and a little more about you. What you probably don't realize is that I grew up in your neighborhood, and I know a few things about you I was previously not commenting on. Your attack, however, on a few of my friends has led me to the following statement: if you don't attend the same church on a regular basis, you're not a member. AA does not replace a church service, but would be a wonderful addition to the social gatherings of some people.

WWJD, I really don't mean to burst any bubbles here, but your pastor isn't one of a kind, really. My pastor's pretty wonderful, too! Despite the fact that he brought chips and chocolate to my hospitalized son. Hehehe...

spyn wrote on 9/23/2006 3:42:55 PM :

so oldman what church do you go to?..since you goaded it out of WWJD there.

oldman wrote on 9/23/2006 3:43:49 PM :

river glade united baptist church

WWJD wrote on 9/23/2006 3:45:10 PM :

oldman wrote:
river glade united baptist church

You do?

You're a member?

each Sunday?

Nightstale wrote on 9/23/2006 3:48:43 PM :

RIGHT ON !!!!

I agree the church should have MORE MORE MORE MORE money...ALL church members should drive hummers - why not? They help the poor, feed the sick...BUT most people only think that strip club owners and porn shop owners should own hummers...Tell me one good reason WHY the church should not have money when people freely want to give?

THE WEALTH OF THE WICKED IS LAID UP FOR THE JUST..

I am going to own 5 hummers!

spyn wrote on 9/23/2006 3:45:25 PM :

so who's the preacher out there?..they got a new one you know

oldman wrote on 9/23/2006 3:48:14 PM :

so if you know why do you ask.i was just wondering what church wwjd attended and found out but still have questions for wwjd that do not include this forum.

spyn wrote on 9/23/2006 3:49:37 PM :

I asked because I wondered if you knew. You say it's your church and yet I wonder how long it's been since you attended.

Nightstale wrote on 9/23/2006 3:51:43 PM :

spyn wrote:
I asked because I wondered if you knew. You say it's your church and yet I wonder how long it's been since you attended.

He is in regualr attendance also with tithes and offerings...are you?

WWJD wrote on 9/23/2006 3:52:21 PM :

Nightstale wrote:
spyn wrote:
I asked because I wondered if you knew. You say it's your church and yet I wonder how long it's been since you attended.

He is in regualr attendance also with tithes and offerings...are you?

She meant oldman :)

Nightstale wrote on 9/23/2006 3:53:42 PM :

OK...so I officially own an apology....so sorry Spyn. Just defending my brother! Forgive me

WWJD wrote on 9/23/2006 3:54:23 PM :

Nightstale wrote:
OK...so I officially own an apology....so sorry Spyn. Just defending my brother! Forgive me

I love you brother!

Nightstale wrote on 9/23/2006 3:55:39 PM :

sniff sniff - I love you to man - HOLD ME

HAhahahah

spyn wrote on 9/23/2006 3:54:45 PM :

Thanx for clearing that up. I was a little confused by the question for a second.hehe But the answer to the regular attendance is no.

And it's alright, good to defend people you love . Big Smile [:D]

oldman wrote on 9/23/2006 4:03:06 PM :

spyn i love and try and get along with everyone i meet.

oldman wrote on 9/23/2006 3:54:11 PM :

the same can be said for you.where and when i attend church is not rellevant.church is anywhere you want it to be.

Nightstale wrote on 9/23/2006 3:54:48 PM :

oldman wrote:
the same can be said for you.where and when i attend church is not rellevant.church is anywhere you want it to be.

It is? Are you sure?

willie c wuddle wrote on 10/31/2006 9:02:06 AM :

WWJD wrote:

h, notme...

have you seen my Pastor's car?

Looks like something I'd buy if the paperboy ever paid back the fifty bucks he owes me. Just kidding.

spyn wrote on 10/31/2006 9:04:44 AM :

Must be something like mine then. cheap and not very reliable...hehe

willie c wuddle wrote on 10/31/2006 9:06:30 AM :

At least your's is easy to find. The colour is louder than the stereo. Big Smile [:D]

spyn wrote on 10/31/2006 9:07:17 AM :

hahahahaha that it is

oldman wrote on 10/31/2006 11:39:33 AM :

yes but spyn atleast your car is easy to find in a parking lot Wave [wave]

WWJD wrote on 9/23/2006 3:55:17 PM :

oldman wrote:
the same can be said for you.where and when i attend church is not rellevant.church is anywhere you want it to be.

Church is wherever you want it to be?

Nope.

Church is where the Spirit of God is moving.

I agree, though, that many churches are not "really" churches.

oldman wrote on 9/23/2006 3:57:56 PM :

yes and i was always taught that god and church were in your heart not a building

WWJD wrote on 9/23/2006 3:59:09 PM :

oldman wrote:
yes and i was always taught that god and church were in your heart not a building

True; God is in the hearts of His People.

His People ARE the Church.

Amen.

oldman wrote on 9/23/2006 4:01:06 PM :

but the true church is not a building.the building is just a gathering place

WWJD wrote on 9/23/2006 4:02:58 PM :

Correct! Amen.

Paul tells us in Hebrews NOT to stop gathering for services, which is the manner of "some".

If one claims Christ, then one loves Christ's FAMILY and wants to spend time with that family.

notme wrote on 9/23/2006 4:08:47 PM :

WWJD wrote:
Correct! Amen.

Paul tells us in Hebrews NOT to stop gathering for services, which is the manner of "some".

If one claims Christ, then one loves Christ's FAMILY and wants to spend time with that family.

i agree partly with that statement but many persons are only going to church to parade that they are church goers and can dress in rich fancy clothings to go there ..so maybe that is why many do not like going to the gathering because they have no sunday clothing and cannot afford to compete with the Jonwe's of the churches ....

WWJD wrote on 9/23/2006 4:10:29 PM :

Odd you say that, because I war causal clothing to church.

it appears my church is blasting away everything you thought church was.

Come to a service, notme.

You'll like it.

The people are awesome.

You can come as you are.

notme wrote on 9/23/2006 4:14:18 PM :

WWJD wrote:
Odd you say that, because I war causal clothing to church.

it appears my church is blasting away everything you thought church was.

Come to a service, notme.

You'll like it.

The people are awesome.

You can come as you are.

might just take you up on that someday

Nightstale wrote on 9/23/2006 4:02:04 PM :

This is true - Here is the question, but how many times do you get together with God and his people? The church

willie c wuddle wrote on 9/23/2006 4:09:38 PM :

WWJD wrote:
oldman wrote:
the same can be said for you.where and when i attend church is not rellevant.church is anywhere you want it to be.

Church is wherever you want it to be?

Nope.

Church is where the Spirit of God is moving.

I agree, though, that many churches are not "really" churches.

I've been telling people this for years. I guess I'm not crazy after all. Well, not because of this , anyway. Big Smile [:D]

oldman wrote on 9/23/2006 4:10:44 PM :

well willy you now know that you are not crazy

notme wrote on 9/23/2006 3:34:09 PM :

it has nothing to do with church it has to do with individual beliefs

church to day is just an organized money gathering outfit

WWJD wrote on 9/23/2006 3:35:37 PM :

notme wrote:
it has nothing to do with church it has to do with individual beliefs

church to day is just an organized money gathering outfit

Money gathering?

Would you like to come to one of moncton's clothing giveaways at a church .

It's free.

notme wrote on 9/23/2006 3:40:00 PM :

WWJD wrote:
notme wrote:

it has nothing to do with church it has to do with individual beliefs

church to day is just an organized money gathering outfit

Money gathering?

Would you like to come to one of moncton's clothing giveaways at a church .

It's free.

yes the clothing is free since they get it for free but most minister and priest ,or whatever else they call themselves are living like kings and driving big cars ..

did not jjesus say somewhere in the bible to his disciple pick one spare outfit and go preach in the name of God ..

to me this mean live in poverty and go preach

willie c wuddle wrote on 9/23/2006 2:39:55 PM :

"because God's Spirit live sin my heart enabling me, and all true Believers, to live lives that NO LONGER break His Commandments."-WWJD

I think WWJD made a spelling typo. I think he means God's Spirit "lives in" not "live sin". I might be wrong on this. Just proving that I pay attention here.

newsong wrote on 9/23/2006 4:24:47 PM :

WWJD wrote:
Got Jesus?

Have you ever told a lie, just ONCE? What do you call someone who tells a lie? ..a liar, right?
Have you ever stolen ANYHTHING in your life, just once? What do you call someone who steals? A thief.
Have you EVER, just once, lusted in your mind for someone else, sexually? Jesus said that you're an adulterer if you have...
If you have said yes to those three things above, then, by your OWN confession, you are:
A lying, thieving adulterer...and the Bible says that if you've broken ONE Law of God, you are guilty of breaking ALL of them.
You're damned to hell, by the standard of God, and we've just gone through 3 of the 10 commandments.
The Good News is this:
Let's say you owed a fine that you couldn't pay.
No judge in any Court Room would let you off scott-free just because you say you're sorry....any judge who lets a criminal go just because the criminal says, "I'm sorry"...well, that judge would soon be out fo a job, wouldn't he?
A JUST judge would never accept the "I'm sorry" line from anyone who broke the law....being sorry has nothing to do with punihsment; the sorriest criminal on earth still has to answer for his crime!
Well... now imagine that just as you're being sent to prison a stranger walks in and PAYS YOUR FINE.
You'd be shocked, thankful and you'd obviously want to know WHO the stranger was who paid your fine...wouldn't you?
Now, God says you've broken His Law.
In any eartly court, we've already established that the words "I'm sorry" won't stop justice from coming your way for breaking the law.
How much MORE just is God?
There is no second chance after trial and convition.
There is no "I'm sorry".
In the Courtroom of God your sins will be brought to testify against you one by one until you stand unable to defend yourself with cries of "I'm sorry".
In HIS Court, there is no appeal.
Shall not the Judge (God) of all the earth do RIGHT?
No one in their right mind would think it right for an eartly judge to let a child molester walk frree simply because the child molester says, "I'm sorry".
How much MORE will God Himself judge those who have lusted, lied, stolen, hated and done all sorts of evil?
The Bible says in Romans that the wages of sin is DEATH; eternal death and separation from God in hell, forever.
THAT is why Jesus came.
He paid the fine that you couldn't pay.
Just as you were about to be sentenced without Mercy, the Lamb of God, Jesus Christ, God's Only Begotten Son, TOOK YOUR PLACE!

HE, Jesus, became YOUR Substitute!
HE took YOUR penalty for breaking GOD'S Law!
He DIED so you could LIVE.
That's why Jesus died on the Cross.
Your good deeds will never get you into Heaven and will never make you right with God.
Jesus died on the Cross BECAUSE you couldn't satisfy the Judgment of God; Jesus satisfied the Judgment of God FOR YOU.
Repent, turn from your sins and call out to God for Mercy and believe that what Jesus did on the Cross can change YOUR life.
If you want to be forgiven and set free from sin, pray this prayer to God and mean it with all of your heart:
"God, I turn from my sin and accept what Jesus did for me on the Cross.Thank you Jesus, for paying the fine I could not pay.I broke Your law, and you died in my place and rose from the dead so that I could be saved from the penalty of breaking Your Law.I ask You now to forgive me and to make me free from all sin and evil and that You would now make me Your Child for all eternity.In the Name of Jesus Christ I pray, Amen."

I cant understand why so many refuse this wonderful offer of life. God is calling all to repent the time is short. This system is about to end, even non christians see it. If you care to study the word of God the Bible many prophecies are being fulfilled in our lifetime. Without God all are in darkness. Jesus is the light that came into the world. His word is true.He is God made flesh. Absolute truth wether you believe it or not is truth it does not change. Gods word is true and every man a liar. God always sends a warning first before His sends his wrath. He is a Holy God and cannot look upon sin. No one can come to God accept through Christ who took the penalty of our sins (death) on the cross. But he rose again so that if we believe on Him and all that he has done and repent, give up our will to do Gods will we will have eternal life.. Die to self and live unto God. Life is eternal but it is eternal death (for those without Christ infact those who are non believers are already dead now even though you think you are alive you are dead without Christ) God is offering you life. He is turning on the light will you come to the light or refuse it and stay in the dark. The Light is the word of God that shows you very clearly what sin is and the way out of sin and serving self. On Judgement day you will not be ignorant or have an excuse. The word says the Fool says in his heart there is no God. Foolish because he chooses death and hell and torment over life eternal with God and peace. Foolish because with God he is eternally lost with no way out. When death comes you will have no control over your life you will just go to wherever your choice now will lead you and there will be nothing you can do about it. You will not be able to call out to God as you are dragged down into hell You are being called now on this forum. God will call but not always strive with you he will leave you to your own choice. So while there is light come to the light and be saved.Dont be a fool. God says dont let your heart be hardened. We are at the end of the age and we will see the end of the world in our lifetime and only those who accept Christ and walk in Gods ways will be saved. Jesus is the way there is no other way. He sends his messengers to warn and to give you Good News. The first thing to open the door to God is to repent. The Good news is there is hope in Christ. There is so much more to know about God. But this is the first step why dont you take it?

WWJD wrote on 9/23/2006 2:11:25 PM :

oldman wrote:
well wwjd i guess you are in the same boat with all of us.because you can't honestly say you haven't broken any of god's commandments

You're right, I can;t honestly say I haven;t broken God's Commandments; and nor would I nor did I.

What I am saying is that I'm now in a different boat...the boat of obedience to God's Commandments, because God's Spirit live sin my heart enabling me, and all true Believers, to live lives that NO LONGER break His Commandments.

That's why Jesus came..not only to FORGIVE SIN, but to TAKE IT AWAY.

notme wrote on 9/23/2006 2:23:02 PM :

so jesus forgave sin and then took them away wow no more sins let party

WWJD wrote on 9/23/2006 2:24:07 PM :

notme wrote:
so jesus forgave sin and then took them away wow no more sins let party

You and your party go take your seat; God isn;t interested in game players.

Come back when you turn 12 and start taking life and religious values seriously.

sass wrote on 9/23/2006 2:27:27 PM :

WWJD wrote:
notme wrote:
so jesus forgave sin and then took them away wow no more sins let party

You and your party go take your seat; God isn;t interested in game players.

Come back when you turn 12 and start taking life and religious values seriously.

Didn't care for this comment

WWJD wrote on 9/23/2006 2:28:52 PM :

Whether you care for it or not, it wasn;t directed to you.

It was directed to an ignorant pre teen who likes to bash, trash and slam religious threads.

sass wrote on 9/23/2006 2:29:43 PM :

Feeling a lil edgy today Dan? Smile!

notme wrote on 9/23/2006 2:30:04 PM :

WWJD wrote:
notme wrote:
so jesus forgave sin and then took them away wow no more sins let party

You and your party go take your seat; God isn;t interested in game players.

Come back when you turn 12 and start taking life and religious values seriously.

it show me by that comment that you are not really what you say you are since you are suppose to preach the word of God not insult people that do not believe in your saying

WWJD wrote on 9/23/2006 2:33:38 PM :

Awe, did I offend your feelings, AFTER you deliberately came and trashed a religious thread?

darn.

Go check out John 8:44 sometime, and tell me about insulting etc etc.

Jesus called certain people, in public, "children of the devil", to their faces.

So, it's not only what one SAYS, but what one DOES that ultimately counts.

My life is an open book, young man; is your's?

Are you arebellious and wicked young man who hates God and laughs at religious ideas?

You need to come clean with God, yourself and your ways.

I have, and I know God blesses such efforts, and He'll also bless you if you do the same.

Otherwise, why are you on this thread?

oldman wrote on 9/23/2006 2:34:15 PM :

there is no one that can convince me that just because a person goes to church every sunday that they will get to heaven before anyone else.it's as they say not up to anyone here on earth.i don't go to church every sunday but believe i have just as much of a chance as say you wwjd

WWJD wrote on 9/23/2006 2:35:33 PM :

oldman wrote:
there is no one that can convince me that just because a person goes to church every sunday that they will get to heaven before anyone else.it's as they say not up to anyone here on earth.i don't go to church every sunday but believe i have just as much of a chance as say you wwjd

I agree oldman.

I believe there is only ONE WAY to go to heaven, but I don;t believe it's by 'chance".

Jesus is that Way. (John 14:6)

Repent, Believe and place your Faith in Him alone.

oldman wrote on 9/23/2006 2:40:20 PM :

i guess we can do nothing but wait and see in the distant future

spyn wrote on 9/23/2006 2:40:25 PM :

Repent, Believe and place your Faith in Him alone.-WWJD

I've been waiting for you to say Repent. Thanx, knew I could count on you...heheh Big Smile [:D]

WWJD wrote on 9/23/2006 2:41:44 PM :

spyn wrote:

Repent, Believe and place your Faith in Him alone.-WWJD

I've been waiting for you to say Repent. Thanx, knew I could count on you...heheh

hahaha.

Repent means to "stop sinning".

here's the catch:

paul tells us in Romans that the GOODNESS of God leads one to repent, or to stop sinning.

Repentance is a GIFT from God.

My question today is:

Have you received this gift?

oldman wrote on 9/23/2006 2:42:44 PM :

how would you know if i have repented or not

spyn wrote on 9/23/2006 2:44:35 PM :

I think you'll find he tells everyone to repent, and you not only have to repent you also have to quit doing the sins that caused you to repent in the first place.

And no, I haven't repented today. I've had a good day... Stick out tongue [:P]

oldman wrote on 9/23/2006 2:45:57 PM :

cograts spyn and contiue to have a good day

spyn wrote on 9/23/2006 2:46:49 PM :

I will thank you. I'm cheerful, I'm happy, I was able to sleep until 9 this morning. It's been a fine day... Big Smile [:D]

oldman wrote on 9/23/2006 2:48:56 PM :

well get jd to keep an eye on wwjd.we need both views

WWJD wrote on 9/23/2006 2:47:44 PM :

Yes, He commands everyone to repent..ALMOST.

Esau, in Romans 9, could not repent anymore, because he sinned away his day of Grace...this means God called him and called him and Esau kept saying "NO!" to God, when he KNEW what he needed to do.

God stopped calling him and finally sealed him for hell.

It's in Romans 9; it states God HATED Esau.

Most think they can repent when they want; Romans 9 shows this to be bogus.

If you sense His calling, don;t harden your heart; He's lovingly asking you to come to Him.

But he'll only ask for so long.

Genesis 6:3.

WWJD wrote on 9/23/2006 2:40:28 PM :

PS: No church, no pastor, no priest, no formula...NOTHING gets one to Heaven but Jesus Christ alone.

Walk with God.

Love God.

Obey God.

Deny yourself.

Place others' material and spiritual needs above your own.

notme wrote on 9/23/2006 2:51:38 PM :

WWJD wrote:
oldman wrote:
there is no one that can convince me that just because a person goes to church every sunday that they will get to heaven before anyone else.it's as they say not up to anyone here on earth.i don't go to church every sunday but believe i have just as much of a chance as say you wwjd

I agree oldman.

I believe there is only ONE WAY to go to heaven, but I don;t believe it's by 'chance".

Jesus is that Way. (John 14:6)

Repent, Believe and place your Faith in Him alone.

well all this just proves to me that God is not perfect since he takes fit of rage just like us humans ,he calls people names and he sometimes does even worse he retaliates

as for my life being an open book well i am not a person that would be stupid enought to tell everyone my life for the simple reason someone might use it either against you or for stealing you

oldman wrote on 9/23/2006 2:53:12 PM :

very true (notme) your live is your own personal business

WWJD wrote on 9/23/2006 2:54:15 PM :

Notme said: well all this just proves to me that God is not perfect since he takes fit of rage just like us humans ,he calls people names and he sometimes does even worse he retaliates

You see? You said it proves TO YOU.

It doesn;t matter what YOU think or what i MYSELF think.

What matters is that God's hatred is holy and perfect.

God's anger is holy and perfect.

Did you think God was a sissy?

haha.

He's G-O-D

He can retaliate, love, hate, and do anything he wants, because he's G-O-D.

Is it fair?

He's G-O-D.

I don;t question God; I fear Him.

oldman wrote on 9/23/2006 2:56:30 PM :

well wwjd this question from a 3 year old.pictures are there of jesus but tell me honestly if god is male or female