btw if you ignore me it show that i won the battle and iam right there is no difference with the jews or other races an holocust wether it the jews or not is an holocust but it called different names since it did not involved jews
well just for your information it meant that the jews got a special names for what happen but the rest did not
oh btw if you do not want to answer me then do not speak about me behind my back
also i never denied that more jews were killed by the nazis than any other races but i cannot agree with the numbers since the jews are still as abundant as before
spyn wrote:hey WWJD, need a coffee?
A nun gave me this quote that stuck in my head, just last week:
"An idle mind is the devil's playground."
You might say that's kind of an anecdote to what you said there.
The Jews are important because they are part of a composite sign of living in the last days. As in the world is going to end in our day. What is happening now with the Jews is a sign ; the bible says they will be hated and that they will be surrounded by all the nations in the end times. Their Land will become desloate but God is going to step in and save them. All will know that God exists but for many it will too late to accept the Lord Jesus as saviour. Please make a study of Biblical Prophecy and see that those prophecies are indeed being fulfilled in our day just as it is written. The bible says those who curse a Jew will be cursed and those who Bless them will be blessed. Many hate this. Their customs and celebrations are a picture of Christs coming and also His return. Many are fulfilled. However the rest will be fulfilled in our day as all things are bought to an end. Those who know and have accepted Christ will be saved. The Jews are Gods chosen people. The world hates that he has chosen a particular nation as his own. Jesus was a Jew. He is returning a second time for the Jews. The bible says when Jesus returns that every eye will see him and those who pierced him (The Jews) will turn to Him. God is going to save that nation and all will see it. All who hate the Jews are cursed. They are being used of Satan as was Hitler. Do a search on it. Look up End times and the Jews. Signs of the end times, Bible prophecies fullfilled etc etc. You will be rivited. Forget the movies this is real. The Bible says that my people perish through lack of knowledge but that goes for all.
Obviously the Holocaust did occur. As someone mentioned before there are still those alive today who were there and experienced that terrible time.
My question is this : I understand Judaism is a religion however, is being Jewish a race or it is being part of an organized religion?
From what I can find out about this, in 1980's The US Supreme Court ruled that Jews are infact a race (this was done to meet certain anti-descrimination laws)
BUT Being part of a racial group means that you share specific DNA traits with others of that group (asian, african, Indian etc).
So is being Jewish being part of a race or being part of an organized religion?
I understand that someone can come from a Jewish background but not practice the religion and still be called Jewish.
mindy rae wrote:Obviously the Holocaust did occur. As someone mentioned before there are still those alive today who were there and experienced that terrible time. My question is this : I understand Judaism is a religion however, is being Jewish a race or it is being part of an organized religion? From what I can find out about this, in 1980's The US Supreme Court ruled that Jews are infact a race (this was done to meet certain anti-descrimination laws) BUT Being part of a racial group means that you share specific DNA traits with others of that group (asian, african, Indian etc). So is being Jewish being part of a race or being part of an organized religion? I understand that someone can come from a Jewish background but not practice the religion and still be called Jewish.
So does that make Jews a race or a religion?
Interesting figure. 5% are full blooded Jews.. Wow almost the wipe out of an entire "religion" or "race"...
Hitler certainly did accomplish or almost accomplish what he intended to do. Very similar things are happening still around the world today Such as in Rwanda and the Congo.
Scarey stuff for sure
mindy rae wrote:So does that make Jews a race or a religion? Interesting figure. 5% are full blooded Jews.. Wow almost the wipe out of an entire "religion" or "race"... Hitler certainly did accomplish or almost accomplish what he intended to do. Very similar things are happening still around the world today Such as in Rwanda and the Congo. Scarey stuff for sure
http://judaism.about.com/od/abcsofjudaism/a/beingjewish.htm
go here and tell them that
also if you want a tea pipe well get one i will stick to my beer
if you cannot give statement without insulting or referring to the bible to hide your ignorance well just do not answer
also it not God that gave israel to the jews it the US and the UN which are the devil
as if you were the best speller in the world
and you are still referring to the bible
irregardless of what the bible says in your words it means one thing but if someone else read it it means another so much for it
who has the right version ,who has the right transalation
why not just stick with the facts that israel was giving to the jews to shut them up by the US and un
just found something interesting
In the 1980s, the United States Supreme Court ruled that Jews are a race, at least for purposes of certain anti-discrimination laws. Their reasoning: at the time these laws were passed, people routinely spoke of the "Jewish race" or the "Italian race" as well as the "Negro race," so that is what the legislators intended to protect.
But many Jews were deeply offended by that decision, offended by any hint that Jews could be considered a race. The idea of Jews as a race brings to mind nightmarish visions of Nazi Germany, where Jews were declared to be not just a race, but an inferior race that had to be rounded up into ghettos and exterminated like vermin.
But setting aside the emotional issues, Jews are clearly not a race.
Race is a genetic distinction, and refers to people with shared ancestry and shared genetic traits. You can't change your race; it's in your DNA. I could never become black or Asian no matter how much I might want to.
Common ancestry is not required to be a Jew. Many Jews worldwide share common ancestry, as shown by genetic research; however, you can be a Jew without sharing this common ancestry, for example, by converting. Thus, although I could never become black or Asian, blacks and Asians have become Jews (Sammy Davis Jr. and Connie Chung).
http://www.jewfaq.org/judaism.htm
Genesis 12:1-3Then the LORD told Abram, "Leave your country, your relatives, and your father's house, and go to the land that I will show you. 2I will cause you to become the father of a great nation. I will bless you and make you famous, and I will make you a blessing to others. 3I will bless those who bless you and curse those who curse you. All the families of the earth will be blessed through you."
does not mention the jews it mention abram
you mustvhave something about hitler since you are constantly talking about him
his he your idol
notme wrote:you mustvhave something about hitler since you are constantly talking about him his he your idol
why you are not carefull insulting my religion and the pope ,
constantly bringning up hitler if you were Jewish and a practicing one well maybe i would understand but that is the past
so how would you like me to bring up at every moment that the English tried the same thing with the Acadians backin time and how about our godd indians (now call aboriginals ) that were almost wipe out by the English again
oh btw they were mostly all baptist too
you see what goes around ,comes around
up to this point i always thought you were a good person trying to live with the love of God but your statements as of late are pretty faulty
get back in being yourself
no i am not a bordering racist but i think you are a person that has issue
wether you are jew ,acadian ,indian it all boils down to the same thing someone tried to abolish the race but the indian ,nor the acadians do not bring it up everytime they talk to someone so what makes the jews so special
before long it will probably be the msulins that will be attack since they are contradicting evryone then what will happen
by the way i do not care wether you are jewish,chinese ,or whatever it the way you present yourself to people that counts and right now well you are not fairing so good
Response: Muslims are a RELIGION...NOT A RACE. Duh.
Response: You haven;t faired "good" since the moment you sided against the Holocaust and then now claim "what's so special about the Jews?"
Conclusion:
oldman wrote:i was waiting for someone to try and stop this arguement.maybe it has been stopped we can only hope
my days been good and bad har sometimes to tell the difference
oldman wrote:my days been good and bad har sometimes to tell the difference
oldman wrote:klind of thought you might
oldman wrote:now when you use the word winter well that's borderline cursing
Must be time to stir the pot...
First, the holocaust is real.Ask around. There are still people alive who lived through that time.
Second, there has always been war against someone who is different. Meaning, the whites were greedy and wanted more land so they tried killing off the indians to get it. The indians do still talk about it, the whites are still trying to make amends (not really but we'll say they're trying)
The french and the english have always fought. There are still people today who can't stand a frenchman, or an englishman, depending on whom you're speaking to.
Trying to deny a point in history is like trying to erase the green in the grass. It's just not happening. Hitler was one sick man, but also a powerful one. There are many different reasons for so many siding with him but the biggest one was fear. If at the begining, people would have stood up to him, maybe it would have ended differently but they didn't and this is where we are today.
In order to learn from past mistakes you must first admit to them. Denying the holocaust, on any race of peoples, means we are bound to repeat past mistakes.
My two cents on this, now I'm going to get more coffee.
spyn i don't deny any of that happened but there are others that do
by the way is you coffee instant,perked or a tim's haha
oldman wrote: spyn i don't deny any of that happened but there are others that do by the way is you coffee instant,perked or a tim's haha
i never denied it did not happen but what i was pointing out is why make such a fuss about when it happen to many other races