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WWJD wrote on 9/23/2006 10:49:32 PM :
Double click the icon below to download Adolf Hitler's "Mein Kampf". Read the actual writings of a possessed man who murdered 6 million Jews.


joel27 wrote on 9/25/2006 2:37:10 PM :
"Mein Kampf" what the hell does that mean
notme wrote on 9/25/2006 5:21:32 PM :

btw if you ignore me it show that i won the battle and iam right  there is no difference with the jews or other races an holocust wether it the jews or not is an holocust  but it called different names since it did not involved jews

 well just for your information   it meant that the jews got a special names for what happen  but the rest did not   

 

 oh btw if you do not want to answer me then do not speak about me behind my back

 

also i never denied that more jews were killed by the nazis  than any other races but i cannot agree with the numbers since the jews are still as abundant as before

WWJD wrote on 9/25/2006 5:23:43 PM :
haha this is a forum; i didn;t send a PM I posted publically so you could see it.

Now, when I need you, I'll call for you.

Until then, go back to the history books.
spyn wrote on 9/25/2006 5:28:28 PM :
hey WWJD, need a coffee?   Coffee [C]  Big Smile [:D]
WWJD wrote on 9/25/2006 5:37:37 PM :
spyn wrote:
hey WWJD, need a coffee?   Coffee [C]  Big Smile [:D]


Naw, I now realize that notmeandmymom was talking from the Tea pipe.

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oldman wrote on 9/25/2006 5:39:10 PM :
spyn maybe you should give wwjd and a few others a coffee to calm them down hahaWhistling [whistling]
spyn wrote on 9/25/2006 5:42:57 PM :
haha  for something like this I may have to lace it with the whiskey.
mike6x5 wrote on 9/25/2006 5:52:58 PM :

A nun gave me this quote that stuck in my head, just last week:

"An idle mind is the devil's playground."

You might say that's kind of an anecdote to what you said there. 

 

newsong wrote on 9/25/2006 5:48:59 PM :

The Jews are important because they are part of a composite sign of living in the last days. As in the world is going to end in our day. What is happening now with the Jews is a sign ;  the bible says they will be hated and that they will be surrounded by all the nations in the end times. Their Land will become desloate but God is going to step in and save them.  All will know that God exists but for many it will too late to accept the Lord Jesus as saviour.  Please make a study of  Biblical Prophecy and see that those prophecies are indeed being fulfilled in our day just as it is written.  The bible says  those who curse a Jew will be cursed and those who Bless them will be blessed. Many hate this.  Their customs and celebrations are a picture of Christs coming and also His return.  Many are fulfilled. However the rest will be fulfilled in our day as all things are bought to an end. Those who know and have accepted Christ will be saved. The Jews are Gods chosen people. The world hates that he has chosen a particular nation as his own. Jesus was a Jew.   He is returning a second time for the Jews. The bible says when Jesus returns that every eye will see him and those who pierced him  (The Jews) will turn to Him. God is going to save that nation and all will see it.  All  who hate the Jews are cursed. They are being used of Satan as was Hitler.  Do a search on it. Look up End times and the Jews. Signs of the end times, Bible prophecies fullfilled etc etc. You will be rivited.   Forget the movies this is real. The Bible says that my people perish through lack of knowledge but that goes for all. 



WWJD wrote on 9/25/2006 5:57:15 PM :
Newsong: All  who hate the Jews are cursed. They are being used of Satan as was Hitler

Very well said!
mindy rae wrote on 9/25/2006 8:50:42 PM :

Obviously the Holocaust did occur. As someone mentioned before there are still those alive today who were there and experienced that terrible time.

My question is this :  I understand Judaism is a religion however, is being Jewish a race or it is being part of an organized religion?

From what I can find out about this, in 1980's The US Supreme Court ruled that Jews are infact a race (this was done to meet certain anti-descrimination laws)

 BUT Being part of a racial group means that you share specific DNA traits with others of that group (asian, african, Indian etc). 

So is being Jewish being part of a race or being part of an organized religion?

I understand that someone can come from a Jewish background but not practice the religion and still be called Jewish.

 

WWJD wrote on 9/25/2006 8:52:35 PM :
mindy rae wrote:

Obviously the Holocaust did occur. As someone mentioned before there are still those alive today who were there and experienced that terrible time.

My question is this :  I understand Judaism is a religion however, is being Jewish a race or it is being part of an organized religion?

From what I can find out about this, in 1980's The US Supreme Court ruled that Jews are infact a race (this was done to meet certain anti-descrimination laws)

 BUT Being part of a racial group means that you share specific DNA traits with others of that group (asian, african, Indian etc). 

So is being Jewish being part of a race or being part of an organized religion?

I understand that someone can come from a Jewish background but not practice the religion and still be called Jewish.

 



Mindy, there are two types of Jews; those who have converted and those who were born Jewish.

Aproximately only 5% of Jewish people today are full blooded Jews.

In Judaism, however, there are very specific guidelines in racial and religious acceptance.
mindy rae wrote on 9/25/2006 8:56:19 PM :

So does that make Jews a race or a religion?

Interesting figure. 5% are full blooded Jews.. Wow almost the wipe out of an entire "religion" or "race"...

Hitler certainly did accomplish or almost accomplish what he intended to do. Very similar things are happening still around the world today Such as in Rwanda and the Congo.

Scarey stuff for sure

WWJD wrote on 9/25/2006 8:59:43 PM :
mindy rae wrote:

So does that make Jews a race or a religion?

Interesting figure. 5% are full blooded Jews.. Wow almost the wipe out of an entire "religion" or "race"...

Hitler certainly did accomplish or almost accomplish what he intended to do. Very similar things are happening still around the world today Such as in Rwanda and the Congo.

Scarey stuff for sure



Almost 5% are full blooded Jews; correct, if I'M correct! haha this figure, if I can recall, was directly quoted to me by Rabbi Stanley Chester.

Anyhow, you do NOT need to be a full blooded Jewish person to be considered a full Jew, just as many natives do not need to be full blooded natives to receive native benefits....etc etc
notme wrote on 9/25/2006 9:24:34 PM :
Being Jewish is not a race

Being Jewish is not a race because Jews do not share one common ancestry or biological distinction. People of many different races have become Jewish people over the years.

Being Jewish is not a nationality

Being Jewish is not a nationality because Jews have been dispersed throughout the world for almost two thousand years. People of many different nationalities are Jewish.

Being Jewish is like being a citizen of a religious movement

Being Jewish means you are a part of a religious movement. However, the great majority of Jews become a part of the religious movement through birth and not due to their beliefs or actions. In this way, being Jewish is like being a citizen of a religious movement.

A Jewish identity is automatically bestowed on the babies of Jewish mothers (according to Orthodox and Conservative Judaism) and of Jewish mothers or fathers (according to Reform Judaism). This Jewish identity stays with them throughout life even if they don't actively practice Judaism.

If a person is not born Jewish, he/she can undergo the process of conversion to become a Jew. A person who was not born Jewish or has not gone through the conversion process is not considered a Jew even if he or she believes in Judaism and observes Jewish practices. The conversion process is very meaningful because it is the only way for a non-Jew to become Jewish.
WWJD wrote on 9/25/2006 9:29:18 PM :
Being Jewish is not a race because Jews do not share one common ancestry or biological distinction. People of many different races have become Jewish people over the years.

RESPONSE: INCORRECT: Abraham is the father of the Jews....this is plain history.Genesis 12 tells the entire account.

Being Jewish is not a nationality because Jews have been dispersed throughout the world for almost two thousand years. People of many different nationalities are Jewish.

RESPONSE: Read Zechariah; God promised to bring them back; guess what? Israel stands today as a fulfillment of that Promise...it took place in 1948

Stop getting your false information from Nazi Friendly sites and get off the Tea Pipe.
notme wrote on 9/25/2006 9:36:14 PM :

http://judaism.about.com/od/abcsofjudaism/a/beingjewish.htm

 

 go here and tell them that

 

also   if you want a tea pipe   well get one i will stick to my beer

 

if you cannot give statement without insulting or referring to the bible to hide your ignorance  well   just do not answer

 

 

also it not God that  gave israel to the jews it the US and the UN  which are the devil  

WWJD wrote on 9/25/2006 9:39:53 PM :
Rather than visit your link, which was googled, I used a trusted source; see "What Is A Jew".

Science wins pretty much every time, if that science shows factual information.

Also, take your racist agenda and your moronic mannerisms and your terrible grammar (no offece Bulert; I spell bad alot too! hahahaha) and:

S T U D Y - H I S T O R Y

God gave Israel to the Jews, as recorde din Scripture; and guess what?

The Bible was around WAY before the US and UN ever came into EXISTENCE.

Shows who the REAL ignorant one is here Wink [;)]

Poo Poo on you!
notme wrote on 9/25/2006 9:47:12 PM :

as if you were the best speller in the world     

 

 

and you are still referring to the bible   

 

 

irregardless of what the bible says in your words it means one thing but if someone else read it it means another  so much for  it

who has the right version ,who has the right transalation 

 

why not just stick with the facts that israel was giving to the jews to shut them up  by the US and un

notme wrote on 9/25/2006 9:51:14 PM :

just found something interesting

Are Jews a Race?

In the 1980s, the United States Supreme Court ruled that Jews are a race, at least for purposes of certain anti-discrimination laws. Their reasoning: at the time these laws were passed, people routinely spoke of the "Jewish race" or the "Italian race" as well as the "Negro race," so that is what the legislators intended to protect.

But many Jews were deeply offended by that decision, offended by any hint that Jews could be considered a race. The idea of Jews as a race brings to mind nightmarish visions of Nazi Germany, where Jews were declared to be not just a race, but an inferior race that had to be rounded up into ghettos and exterminated like vermin.

But setting aside the emotional issues, Jews are clearly not a race.

Race is a genetic distinction, and refers to people with shared ancestry and shared genetic traits. You can't change your race; it's in your DNA. I could never become black or Asian no matter how much I might want to.

Common ancestry is not required to be a Jew. Many Jews worldwide share common ancestry, as shown by genetic research; however, you can be a Jew without sharing this common ancestry, for example, by converting. Thus, although I could never become black or Asian, blacks and Asians have become Jews (Sammy Davis Jr. and Connie Chung).

 

 

http://www.jewfaq.org/judaism.htm

WWJD wrote on 9/25/2006 9:51:19 PM :
I'm beginning to see that you CAN'T respond to the thread "What Is A Jew".

Why can;t you go there and dispute the scientific information presented?

See you there!
notme wrote on 9/25/2006 4:30:46 PM :

Genesis 12:1-3
Then the LORD told Abram, "Leave your country, your relatives, and your father's house, and go to the land that I will show you. 2I will cause you to become the father of a great nation. I will bless you and make you famous, and I will make you a blessing to others. 3I will bless those who bless you and curse those who curse you. All the families of the earth will be blessed through you."

 

does not mention the jews it mention abram 

 

 

btw if you ignore me it show that i won the battle and iam right  there is no difference with the jews or other races an holocust wether it the jews or not is an holocust  but it called different names since it did not involved jews

notme wrote on 9/25/2006 3:13:42 PM :

you mustvhave something about hitler  since you are constantly talking about him  

 

his he your idol

willie c wuddle wrote on 9/25/2006 3:19:17 PM :
I think it stands for My Struggle.
oldman wrote on 9/25/2006 3:21:53 PM :
i for one have seen enough of hitler stuff.move on to something newer
WWJD wrote on 9/25/2006 4:01:40 PM :
notme wrote:

you mustvhave something about hitler  since you are constantly talking about him  

 

his he your idol



Oddly enough, I'm Jewish.

carful whatcha say about others
oldman wrote on 9/25/2006 4:04:30 PM :
wwjd if you are jewish why do you attend baptist church
notme wrote on 9/25/2006 4:11:33 PM :

why you are not carefull insulting my religion and the pope  ,

 

constantly bringning up hitler   if you were Jewish and a practicing one   well maybe i would understand  but that is the past

 

so how would you like me to bring up at every moment that the English tried the same thing with the Acadians   backin time and how about our godd indians (now call aboriginals ) that were almost wipe out by the English again

oh btw they were mostly all baptist too

 

you see what goes around ,comes around 

up to this point i always thought you were a good person trying to live  with the love of God but your statements as of late are pretty faulty  

 

get back in being yourself

WWJD wrote on 9/25/2006 4:15:52 PM :
Speaking of what the english did to the acadians (my DAD is acadian/indian!) is much different than speaking of the Holocaust YOU have denied; you're borderline RACIST.

You have a problem with talking trash about racists?

I suspect it;'s because you just might be one.

Like my tats? On each hand (waves big!)

Oh, and by the way, this whole thread isn't talking "bad", primarily, about Hitler...I posted HIS BOOK!

So...

Believe what you will; multiplied MILLIONS of Jews will NEVER forget the atrocities done by the RC church and the Nazi Regime.

Same with the Acadians... and Indians.

WE HAVE A RIGHT to remember.

YOU DO NOT have a right to quash what we ALL believe, Indians and Acadians INCLUDED.

I FIRMLY stand against ALL racism, against Jews, and any other persecuted race, african americans INCLUDED.

Now.

Go read your history.

You may learn a little and be slow to speak next time.

If you don;t like a thread, DON'T POST IN IT.

http://www.icminternational.org/home/1764/1764/audio/tat.jpg
http://www.icminternational.org/home/1764/1764/audio/tat2.jpg
notme wrote on 9/25/2006 4:22:35 PM :

no i am not a bordering racist  but i think you are a person that has issue 

 

 

wether you are jew ,acadian ,indian it all boils down to the same thing someone tried to abolish the race  but the indian ,nor the acadians do not bring it up everytime they talk to someone  so what makes the jews so special

 

before long it will  probably be the msulins that will be attack since they are contradicting evryone  then what will happen

 

 

by the way i do not care wether you are jewish,chinese ,or whatever   it the way you present yourself to people that counts and right now  well you are not fairing so good   

 

 

WWJD wrote on 9/25/2006 4:26:51 PM :
no i am not a bordering racist  but i think you are a person that has issue

Response: YOu have the issues; you're a borderline racist and aren;t even aware of it.

wether you are jew ,acadian ,indian it all boils down to the same thing someone tried to abolish the race  but the indian ,nor the acadians do not bring it up everytime they talk to someone  so what makes the jews so special

Response; WHAT DO YOU THINK THE ACADIAN FLAG STANDS FOR?!

before long it will  probably be the msulins that will be attack since they are contradicting evryone  then what will happen

Response: Muslims are a RELIGION...NOT A RACE. Duh.

by the way i do not care wether you are jewish,chinese ,or whatever   it the way you present yourself to people that counts and right now  well you are not fairing so good   

Response: You haven;t faired "good" since the moment you sided against the Holocaust and then now claim "what's so special about the Jews?"


Genesis 12:1-3
Now the LORD had said unto Abram, Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and from thy father's house, unto a land that I will shew thee:And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great; and thou shalt be a blessing:And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.

Conclusion:

Now, I'm through speaking with your foolishness...

I posted a BOOK and you started a racial debate.

I'm going to ignore you now.

Bye bye
oldman wrote on 9/25/2006 4:29:27 PM :
i was waiting for someone to try and stop this arguement.maybe it has been stopped we can only hope
WWJD wrote on 9/25/2006 4:31:13 PM :
oldman wrote:
i was waiting for someone to try and stop this arguement.maybe it has been stopped we can only hope


It has been stopped; I'm no longer responding; as you see, i posted a book and all of a sudden get bombarded.

So, regardless of any responses, I won;'t reply :)

The Book of Proverbs tells us that it would be foolishness to answer a fool.

That said, how's your day been oldman?
oldman wrote on 9/25/2006 4:32:23 PM :

my days been good and bad har sometimes to tell the difference

WWJD wrote on 9/25/2006 4:33:20 PM :
oldman wrote:

my days been good and bad har sometimes to tell the difference



hahah I know EXACTLY what you're saying old chap!
oldman wrote on 9/25/2006 4:34:59 PM :
klind of thought you might
WWJD wrote on 9/25/2006 4:37:53 PM :
oldman wrote:
klind of thought you might


Nights are getting MUCH colder... alas, winter is here
oldman wrote on 9/25/2006 4:40:35 PM :
now when you use the word winter well that's borderline cursing
WWJD wrote on 9/25/2006 4:42:06 PM :
oldman wrote:
now when you use the word winter well that's borderline cursing


hehe winter is only a matter of Time [O]
oldman wrote on 9/25/2006 4:43:37 PM :
wwjd you are not funny.well i'm going to sit back and see what happens next
spyn wrote on 9/25/2006 4:55:16 PM :

Must be time to stir the pot...Big Smile [:D]

First, the holocaust is real.Ask around. There are still people alive who lived through that time.

Second, there has always been war against someone who is different. Meaning, the whites were greedy and wanted more land so they tried killing off the indians to get it. The indians do still talk about it, the whites are still trying to make amends (not really but we'll say they're trying)

The french and the english have always fought. There are still people today who can't stand a frenchman, or an englishman, depending on whom you're speaking to.

Trying to deny a point in history is like trying to erase the green in the grass. It's just not happening. Hitler was one sick man, but also a powerful one. There are many different reasons for so many siding with him but the biggest one was fear. If at the begining, people would have stood up to him, maybe it would have ended differently but they didn't and this is where we are today.

In order to learn from past mistakes you must first admit to them. Denying the holocaust, on any race of peoples, means we are bound to repeat past mistakes.

My two cents on this, now I'm going to get more coffee.

oldman wrote on 9/25/2006 4:58:06 PM :

spyn i don't deny any of that happened but there are others that do

by the way is you coffee instant,perked or a tim's haha

spyn wrote on 9/25/2006 5:08:41 PM :
perked, tim's comes later
oldman wrote on 9/25/2006 5:17:29 PM :
well they say tim's is the best   spyn
notme wrote on 9/25/2006 5:08:54 PM :
oldman wrote:

spyn i don't deny any of that happened but there are others that do

by the way is you coffee instant,perked or a tim's haha

 

 i never denied it did not happen but what i was pointing out is why make such a fuss about when it happen to many other races

WWJD wrote on 9/25/2006 5:16:05 PM :
That was a good lesson on morality mixed with history, Spyn!

As for the Haolocaust denier lying, here's his own statement:

btw if you ignore me it show that i won the battle and iam right  there is no difference with the jews or other races an holocust wether it the jews or not is an holocust  but it called different names since it did not involved jews

Either he mis=spelled (which he does often) or he's a liar.

I can also post his words from yesterday or the day before where he blatantly played it down.

6 Million Jews were slaughtered by means of gas chambers, with women and children stripped naked and told they were being showered.

They were slaughtered.

They are the only RACE to bve mass exterminiated.

NO other race, as notmeandmymom claims were slaughtered this way; WW2 was violent and killed 20 million RUSSIANS etc etc but because of the war for territiory, not race.

Anyhow, enough.

Blah Blah Blah.