Don't kid yourself HELL is real!.. The Devil has some thinking that there is no HELL.. He is a master Liar since he invented it. I assure you when you get to HELL you will think differently...

People do not like to learn that they are in danger of HELLFIRE.. infact they get insulted and defensive.. most think they have things figured out their own way and really think they are going to be welcomed into GODS Kingdom.. Satan even has many tricked into thinking they are some type of Aliens dwelling on Earth and about to be swept off to their homeland..

I warn you now that this post is based on SCRIPTURE.. and if the BIBLE says you are going to HELL I really believe that you are.. And I will tell you that you are going to HELL.. Since I live by the Bible I will speak what the Bible says.. and if the Bible says you're Hellbound.. you're Hellbound! There's no beating around the bush here..

Forget everything you think you know and base everything on this one fact for a second: THE BIBLE IS VERY REAL!

If you were born into some other type of false religion thats too bad!.. you're HELLBOUND! at this present moment.. It doesn't matter.. Thats like saying "..oh I was born in LAMETOWN, USA and I'm unhappy here but will stay here forever and be unhappy because I was born here" As soon as you found out there was life somewhere else you left.. I'm telling you now there is LIFE in Jesus! Some people were born Blind or with no legs and they were able to find Jesus. Im here to tell you that if you were born into a cursed Religion.. it's your job to scrape your way out of that HELLPIT. Your beliefs are FALSE!

You are reading this because GOD is calling you at this exact moment to save yourself from HELL. I know this may be a shock to you to realize that you are HELLBOUND.. But understand that life was not suppose to be fair.. The devil dug his claws into a lot of things before you were born.. It's your job to save yourself..

The good news is that at this exact second you are reading this GOD is watching.. He wants you to learn about his son that was sent to earth to be slaughtered for your sins.. He wants you to check out what Jesus is really all about.. This post can help you stay out of HELL!.

For all you that think Jesus was just talking about a Garbage dump southeast of Jerusalem when he talked about HELL.. I have some bad news for you, some claim HELL is nothing but separation from God. I would be very careful about spreading that false doctrine around.. The Bible warns about this.. You are considered CURSED and by perverting the Word of God you go to a different level of HELL worse then getting eaten by giant worms and burning in a PIT.

Check out this Scripture in (GAL 1:8).. The Chief Apostle Paul was very disturbed of perverted doctrine back then... He had the same problems we have today.. When Satan can take control over someone he is able to use that person to work against and pervert the Gospel of Christ! So Paul does something very extreme.. He lays down a written CURSE..

This means that if you are guilty in anyway of perverting the Gospel of Christ.. I mean in the slightest way.. I don't care if you are just going around saying "Jesus never walked on water" or something stupid along those lines.. Even if you're an Angel from Heaven there is a written CURSE against such blasphemeth remarks in the spirit.. And the second you die you WILL wake up in a different level of HELL where the punishment is unexplainable..

There's no down time.. your soul gets sucked into vortex where everlasting torment is waiting!.. Since Paul was always led by the Holy Ghost when he cursed something.. I can only think that the Holy Ghost is laying down some hard rules here.. That by perverting the Gospel you are directly speaking against the Holy Ghost.. And Jesus himself made this perfectly clear in (LUK 12:10) that if anyone speak against the HOLY GHOST in anyway that they were doomed.

I am sorry to say that even if you are already Guilty of such things in slightest way.. if you have spoke against the Gospel of Christ or the Holy Ghost and perverted them in anyway. That it is written that you are already DAMNED. So I guess enjoy the rest of your life in the flesh until you get to your new home HELL. If I were you I would still be mega-repenting and running around bearing fruit in the name of the LORD with Good Works after your conversion to Christ.But once you turn your life to Christ you will be forgiven of all these sins.

LUK 12:10  And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but unto him that blasphemeth against the Holy Ghost it shall not be forgiven.

Anyone that perverts the Gospel of Christ is CURSED.. Paul is very clear.. Be very careful about what you're preaching.. If you think you're right about something because you just bought yourself a Strong's Concordance and you think you're going to re-write the Bible you better think again.. The Devil has had his hands in everything way before you ever existed.. All you are going to do is create confusion and get a one way ticket to HELL.. Stop playing Scholar and start bearing some fruit!.. All your useless word crunching is not going to help the Kingdom of God..

GAL 1:6  I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:
GAL 1:7  Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
GAL 1:8  But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be ACCURSED. GAL 1:9  As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be ACCURSED.
GAL 1:10  For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ.
GAL 1:11  But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.
GAL 1:12  For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.

Paul ends with confirming that the Gospel of Christ was not of man.. Alot of New Agers are running around saying that the Bible was of man.. God knew this would happen.. so prior to these sick Hellbound New Agers going around saying the Bible was of man.. The Holy Ghost had Paul write (GAL 1:12).

If you have been spreading perverted doctrine around.. my only advice would be to start doing some serious repenting. You might be able to save yourself from a PIT in HELL even though the Scriptures say you are already CURSED. The scary part is you might even think your perverted doctrine is right. This is a demon that you have living in you that you need Deliverance from. It's a New Age demon that is very powerful in controlling your thoughts.

Gehenna is not the HELL Jesus is talking about! This is false doctrine.. That's exactly what Satan wants you to think.. Smarten up! Once the devil realized he was defeated by the blood of the lamb.. he began attacking Scripture first.. There are some Bibles that even delete him from Scripture! Are you going tell me soon that the devil Jesus was talking about doesn't exist next?..

Don't you see how you have been tricked! Because of this false doctrine people think they can just continue to sin. The devil loves this No HELL teaching. What are you going to do when you die and you find you have no Angels to escort you to Heaven but instead have Demons that will take you into a vortex that sucks you down into hell.. there you will get a PIT and large worms start chewing on your spiritual body.. you feel and remember everything.. and you rot and begin getting cooked.. you will be weeping and wailing. Many of you say:

Nice People Hellbound?.

"God would not do that to me.. I am a very nice person and he is a Loving God and will not send me to a place of torment because he is so nice and merciful"

You're right God is Loving and Merciful.. and once you start following his son Jesus with all your heart you now become one of Gods children. And he will come to your aid more then you can imagine (Psalms 18:). If you think you're slipping by any other way the Bible calls you a Bastard.

God lets terrible things happen everyday to much more innocent people then you.. Take a walk through a cancer ward of a hospital and tell me how many children are in unbelievable pain and suffering. Such pure souls under the watchful eye of the Living God.. these children's rewards are already waiting for them in LIFE which is the Kingdom of God.. God let Jesus suffer like you cannot imagine!.. What makes you think that that you are so special? The Apostle's suffered beatings all the time... God allowed this to happen.. Suffering for the name of Jesus! The Father knows who suffered for his Sons name sake.. and their rewards are in Heaven.

God brought Moses up on a mountain to see the promise land but wouldn't let him into the promise land. God  threatened to kill Moses because he got mad and hit the rock with his staff instead of following Gods instructions and talking to the rock.. Are you following HIS instructions?

God killed the Pharaohs baby when he wouldn't obey God. Are you obeying his word?. (JOB 1:19) God let JOBS entire family get wiped out by Satan, all his children and servants were slaughtered. What's scary is nothing has changed.. the world has become a modern day Egypt.. There was false doctrine back then and False Prophets, Witches, Satanists, Sorcerers, Liars, Perverts, Murderers, Sodomites and Whoremongers.. God will always show up to clean house.. I hope that you are ready when Jesus and his Angels start separating the wicked by throwing their souls into HELL. Start fearing God and humble yourself before him!.. Fearing something is wise and keeps you alive..

PSALMS 112:1  Praise ye the LORD. Blessed is the man that feareth the LORD, that delighteth greatly in his commandments.

He is your creator and wants to be your Father. If your not living by his covenant you're considered a bastard.

God is not sending you to HELL.. you're sending yourself to HELL! Im telling you now you're taking a big chance you will regret!

BlinkeredKitten, the answer to your question of different degrees of HELL.

Luke 12:47-48

[47.]And that servant, which knew his lord's will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes.

[48.]But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more.

Mt 11:21-24

[21] Woe unto thee, Chorazin! woe unto thee, Bethsaida! for if the mighty works, which were done in you, had been done in Tyre and Sidon, they would have repented long ago in sackcloth and ashes.
[22] But I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for Tyre and Sidon at the day of judgment, than for you.
[23] And thou, Capernaum, which art exalted unto heaven, shalt be brought down to hell: for if the mighty works, which have been done in thee, had been done in Sodom, it would have remained until this day.
[24] But I say unto you, That it shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom in the day of judgment, than for thee.

According to the above passages (and also Jn 9:41, 15:22, 24), those with greater knowledge of morality and/or greater knowledge of God (via exposure to the Gospel, witnessing of miracles, etc.) will be held more accountable and consequently receive greater punishment than those who are ignorant through no fault of their own. Allowance is also made for children too young to be held responsible for their actions (Dt 1:27-28, 34-39).

I still don't see where it speaks of Hell directly. Perhaps I'm just dumb, but I would have read that as saying He will have a harsher tone with them or perhaps their punishment will be more embarrassing because it will be publicly known that they chose it by their deeds.

 Also it's not exactly stated that one's degree of punishment is also based on the severity of one's sins, but this is clearly implied in several places, example Matthew 16:27. It can also be stated by the different degrees of punishment given for differing sins in the Mosaic Law. One could argue that every sin is sin against God and all sins therefore deserve severe punishment or death, and explain the differing punishments in the Law as God's leniency towards people's hardened hearts (e.g. Mt 19:8). Yet the notion that all sins merit the exact same punishment goes against humanity's instincts; therefore it's something we would need to be taught to us by God. One would think that God would therefore have taught this lesson in the Law by decreeing that all sins receive the same punishment (e.g. exile, or a large fine or sacrifice). Yet not only are there degrees of punishment that precisely match the crime (e.g. Ex 21:23-25), there is a command about not punishing those who deserved to be whipped with more lashes than is right (Dt 25:2-3).

BlinkeredKitten all I have to say about your criticism is this:

There are some people that may say it is wrong to scare a person into heaven. They are wrong. It is written, AND OF SOME HAVE COMPASSION, MAKING A DIFFERENCE: AND OTHERS SAVE WITH FEAR, PULLING THEM OUT OF THE FIRE; HATING EVEN THE GARMENT SPOTTED BY THE FLESH-Jude 22,23.
   This message may be considered as a road sign of warning. Some may look at a sign that reads, "The bridge is out," and say, "Oh, someone is just trying to scare us into taking another road. Let???s go on the same way." They go on and plunge to their death. The sign was not meant to scare people. It was meant to warn people of impending danger. Likewise, this message is intended to warn people of impending danger, unless they repent.

DYR..

you look familiar ..where are you from?

D.Y.R#7XTRUST wrote:

BlinkeredKitten all I have to say about your criticism is this:

 

There are some people that may say it is wrong to scare a person into heaven. They are wrong. It is written, AND OF SOME HAVE COMPASSION, MAKING A DIFFERENCE: AND OTHERS SAVE WITH FEAR, PULLING THEM OUT OF THE FIRE; HATING EVEN THE GARMENT SPOTTED BY THE FLESH-Jude 22,23.
   This message may be considered as a road sign of warning. Some may look at a sign that reads, "The bridge is out," and say, "Oh, someone is just trying to scare us into taking another road. Let???s go on the same way." They go on and plunge to their death. The sign was not meant to scare people. It was meant to warn people of impending danger. Likewise, this message is intended to warn people of impending danger, unless they repent.

'Twasn't necessarily meant as criticism. Just a different point of view, with reasons and Scriptures provided.

BlinkeredKitten wrote:

I still don't see where it speaks of Hell directly. Perhaps I'm just dumb, but I would have read that as saying He will have a harsher tone with them or perhaps their punishment will be more embarrassing because it will be publicly known that they chose it by their deeds.

WWJD wrote:

BlinkeredKitten wrote:

I still don't see where it speaks of Hell directly. Perhaps I'm just dumb, but I would have read that as saying He will have a harsher tone with them or perhaps their punishment will be more embarrassing because it will be publicly known that they chose it by their deeds.

What do you make of Jesus in John 8, publically saying this...and it was NOT to the Pharisees primarily, but to BELIEVERS who refused to give up all sin and follow Him:

John 8:31-34; 41-44

Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed; and ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.They answered him, We be Abraham's seed, and were never in bondage to any man: how sayest thou, Ye shall be made free?Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin....Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God.Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Insinuating something, or did I completely miss your point again?

Sorry .. I'm sick and in a lot of pain. 'Tis why I asked instead of responding harshly.

Thanks for clarifying.

BlinkeredKitten wrote:

Sorry .. I'm sick and in a lot of pain. 'Tis why I asked instead of responding harshly.

My faith doesn't stand in the wisdom of man .... it stands in the power of God;

It doesn't rise or fall when I'm backed against the wall .. my faith stands in the power of God.

Oh, if only I had the voice to play the piano and sing that tune right now!

BlinkeredKitten wrote:

My faith doesn't stand in the wisdom of man .... it stands in the power of God;

It doesn't rise or fall when I'm backed against the wall .. my faith stands in the power of God.

Oh, if only I had the voice to play the piano and sing that tune right now!

BlinkeredKitten wrote:

Hebrews says that "Faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen." I have the faith .. the result just hasn't been seen yet.

BlinkeredKitten wrote:

I'm going to have a chat with your wife. I'm going to give her a special recipe to feed you the next time YOU get sick.

I knew that, but I cuoldn't think of any Scripture to come back with.

Come a little closer and I'll do a magic trick with that small cold .... hehehe.

mike6x5 wrote:

Wow.  Look, I don't think anyone on earth has the authority to condemn anyone to hell.  I think Jesus and His Dad would be pretty pissed off at people making those judgements for them.

Willie, you're right about the long posts, and I'm guilty of it far too often!  My apologies.

And some preaching can come across as bullying, and no one likes a bully.  I realize the good intentions, but sometimes certain music sounds better at a lower volume.

BlinkeredKitten wrote:

Who are you, exactly? We've seen people come in here with attitude before, but you really take the cake! Presenting the Gospel in such a harsh way does not exactly make people eager to hear what you have to say. Try mixing your message with a little compassion and a whole lot of sensitivity. There are a few here who will attest to the fact that it gets you further.

Do you always speak for him?

Listen, now, WWJD .. you and I didn't exactly start out friendly, as I recall. But we had a chance to get to know one another. This person has the same opportunity, without your "rescuing" him. It's great to support your friends, but give me a chance to hear HIS response too!!

O.K, BlinkeredKitten, since when did the BIBLE say the compassion avenue was the only highway? Check out Jude:23 "And others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh." I respect your concern, but I live by GODS WORD and not mans, and the Bible allows such a method. I would apologize, but the Bible is the lamp unto my feet and the light unto my path, and the final say in my life.

Thank You 

notme wrote:

well i found the devil he is the one that likes to post long post and preach the word of God in a forked tongue

D.Y.R#7XTRUST wrote:

Don't kid yourself HELL is real!.. The Devil has some thinking that there is no HELL.. He is a master Liar since he invented it. I assure you when you get to HELL you will think differently...

I warn you now that this post is based on SCRIPTURE.. and if the BIBLE says you are going to HELL I really believe that you are.. And I will tell you that you are going to HELL.. Since I live by the Bible I will speak what the Bible says.. and if the Bible says you're Hellbound.. you're Hellbound! There's no beating around the bush here..

===There may wellbe a Hell,and if there is,than I have already bought and paid for my ticket there.

 

Forget everything you think you know and base everything on this one fact for a second: THE BIBLE IS VERY REAL!

Yes it is real, and the word of God,,but too many evil men have had their hands on it and twisted it around to their own liking,and what they  interpreted it to say.

If you were born into some other type of false religion thats too bad!.. you're HELLBOUND! at this present moment.. It doesn't matter.. Thats like saying "..oh I was born in LAMETOWN, USA and I'm unhappy here but will stay here forever and be unhappy because I was born here" As soon as you found out there was life somewhere else you left.. I'm telling you now there is LIFE in Jesus! Some people were born Blind or with no legs and they were able to find Jesus. Im here to tell you that if you were born into a cursed Religion.. it's your job to scrape your way out of that HELLPIT. Your beliefs are FALSE!

  According to you.Yes. According to others no.

 

You are reading this because GOD is calling you at this exact moment to save yourself from HELL.

I'm reading this because I'm bored and getting a bit fed up with your hollier than thou attitude. Maybe that is God speaking through me..

 

The good news is that at this exact second you are reading this GOD is watching.. He wants you to learn about his son that was sent to earth to be slaughtered for your sins.. He wants you to check out what Jesus is really all about.. This post can help you stay out of HELL!.

I already have,,and my interpretation is vastly different than yours.

Check out this Scripture in (GAL 1:8).. The Chief Apostle Paul was very disturbed of perverted doctrine back then... He had the same problems we have today.. When Satan can take control over someone he is able to use that person to work against and pervert the Gospel of Christ! So Paul does something very extreme.. He lays down a written CURSE..

I though only witches and sorcerors layed down curses..

This means that if you are guilty in anyway of perverting the Gospel of Christ.. I mean in the slightest way.. I don't care if you are just going around saying "Jesus never walked on water" or something stupid along those lines.. Even if you're an Angel from Heaven there is a written CURSE against such blasphemeth remarks in the spirit.. And the second you die you WILL wake up in a different level of HELL where the punishment is unexplainable..

Perverting it how,,as you have already?

 

I am sorry to say that even if you are already Guilty of such things in slightest way.. if you have spoke against the Gospel of Christ or the Holy Ghost and perverted them in anyway. LUK 12:10  And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of maThat it is written that you are already n, it shall be forgiven him: but unto him that blasphemeth against the Holy Ghost it shall not be forgiven.

Sounds like the bad points of Islam to me...

Anyone that perverts the Gospel of Christ is CURSED.. Paul is very clear.. Be very careful about what you're preaching.. If you think you're right about something because you just bought yourself a Strong's Concordance and you think you're going to re-write the Bible you better think again.. The Devil has had his hands in everything way before you ever existed.. All you are going to do is create confusion and get a one way ticket to HELL.. Stop playing Scholar ..

Practise what you preach..

 

 

 

 This is a demon that you have living in you that you need Deliverance from. It's a New Age demon that is very powerful in controlling your thoughts.

And even speaking through your mouth right now..

 

Nice People Hellbound?.

"God would not do that to me.. I am a very nice person and he is a Loving God and will not send me to a place of torment because he is so nice and merciful"

You're right God is Loving and Merciful.. and once you start following his son Jesus with all your heart you now become one of Gods children. And he will come to your aid more then you can imagine (Psalms 18:). If you think you're slipping by any other way the Bible calls you a Bastard.

God lets terrible things happen everyday to much more innocent people then you..

Yes we have all seen this..

What makes you think that that you are so special? The Apostle's suffered beatings all the time... God allowed this to happen.. Suffering for the name of Jesus!

This is not my idea of a loving God .He is CRUEL.

 

God brought Moses up on a mountain to see the promise land but wouldn't let him into the promise land.. God killed Moses because he got mad and hit the rock with his staff instead of following Gods instructions and talking to the rock..

A kind merciful God kills a great man like Moses because he didn't follow his magic instruction? You are not preaching God's love, but God's hatred at those who go against him.

 

God killed the Pharaohs baby when he wouldn't obey God.

Now we have God the  inocent Baby Killer.

. There was false doctrine back then and False Prophets, Witches, Satanists, Sorcerers, Liars, Perverts, Murderers, Sodomites and Whoremongers.. God will always show up to clean house.. I hope that you are ready when Jesus and his Angels start separating the wicked by throwing their souls into HELL. Start fearing God and humble yourself before him!.. Fearing something is wise and keeps you alive..

Who wants a God that you must fear and humble youself to?

He is your creator and wants to be your Father. If your not living by his covenant you're considered a bastard.

The actions you have attributed to God,whould have him up for abuse charges and worse today.

You have above,described a Tyrant,not God. That is the big problem with the Bible as it is.

The Creator I believe in is a kind ,loving and understanding enity,that whats me to learn,experience life and respect others.Follow sensible laws . Be Happy. Have Sex for the pure JOY of it. All in moderation.

I found him in the Scriptures. 

D.Y.R#7XTRUST wrote:

I assure you when you get to HELL you will think differently...

A: WHEN I get to Hell? How about "IF you get to Hell" ... You don't know me personally, nor many of the others on this forum! You have no right in making such judgemental statements that condemn us all to Hell. You might be very surprised to hear my true identity.

If you were born into some other type of false religion thats too bad!.. you're HELLBOUND! at this present moment.. It doesn't matter.. Thats like saying "..oh I was born in LAMETOWN, USA and I'm unhappy here but will stay here forever and be unhappy because I was born here" As soon as you found out there was life somewhere else you left.. I'm telling you now there is LIFE in Jesus! Some people were born Blind or with no legs and they were able to find Jesus. Im here to tell you that if you were born into a cursed Religion.. it's your job to scrape your way out of that HELLPIT. Your beliefs are FALSE!

A: What about those who have never been presented another Gospel? I'm not particularly fond of the door-to-door missionaries ... mainly because they don't know how to take a polite "no" for an answer. The credit that I will give to them, though, is that they are trying to make sure that every person in their town is presented with their version of salvation. Can the same be said for you or I? People who are never taught any more than one thing shouldn't be expected to know more than one thing. I've never been in a Catholic church. I've been to possibly 3 Baptist services in my entire life. Why? Because I'm content in the background in which I was raised. I understand the Scriptures as explained to me, and the few minor differences I have are regarding outward holiness - dress code, etc. Perhaps the person raised in "false religion" is someone as dedicated as I am because they've never been exposed to anything else. I wouldn't want to be the one to judge them for their lack of knowledge, which is directly OPPOSITE to refusal to obey God's Word.

You are reading this because GOD is calling you at this exact moment to save yourself from HELL.

I'm reading this because I'm interested in most posts on religion. Again, you have no right in determining who's headed for Hell. Personally, I don't feel that I am.

 

The good news is that at this exact second you are reading this GOD is watching.. He wants you to learn about his son that was sent to earth to be slaughtered for your sins.. He wants you to check out what Jesus is really all about.. This post can help you stay out of HELL!.

I learned it years ago. And I haven't yet seen any directions leading me either to or away from Hell in this post. *shrug* Maybe it's just me.

And the second you die you WILL wake up in a different level of HELL where the punishment is unexplainable..

Could you show me Scripture for different levels of Hell? I've often thought there should be, but seems that even your biggest advocate - WWJD - agrees with me that sin is sin - they all weigh the same. In which case, they'd all receive the same punishment.

If there truly are different levels of Hell, I'd sincerely be interested in learning more about that. I've never heard it preached before.

 

Stop playing Scholar ..

Chapter and verse escapes me, but there is a Scripture which instructs us to "Study to show thyself approved unto God ..."

1Timothy 4:13 - "Till I come, give attendance to reading, to exhortation, to doctrine." Verse 15 - "Meditate upon these things; give thyself wholly to them ... "

Hmmm...sure looks to me like we've been ordered to "play scholar!"

What makes you think that that you are so special? The Apostle's suffered beatings all the time... God allowed this to happen.. Suffering for the name of Jesus!

Missionaries overseas still experience these things. It's not Jesus killing them - it's men who are evil and don't really know any better than to defend their own religion in the way they've been taught.

 

God killed Moses because he got mad and hit the rock with his staff instead of following Gods instructions and talking to the rock..

God didn't kill Moses for this act of disobedience. Moses lived for years after this! God just didn't allow Moses to live long enough to share in the joy of actually reaching the Promised Land. You make it out as though God just struck him dead right then and there! He was a little nicer about it. Disobedience has its cost. If my child hits his sister on the way to the zoo, am I still going to buy him the treat I was planning for him? Highly unlikely.

 

Start fearing God and humble yourself before him!.. Fearing something is wise and keeps you alive..

Proverbs 1:7 - The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge.

Fear is perhaps the basic principle in that when you fear what God is capable of, you can begin to respect Him for not only the power He holds, but His wisdom in the use of it.

He is your creator and wants to be your Father. If your not living by his covenant you're considered a bastard.

Romans 5:8 - But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.

He didn't stand around calling names and do nothing to show them the way. He gave His analysis of sin and sinners, but also pointed out the way they should go and expressed His love in so many ways - including the cross!

2 Timothy 2:24-25 - And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient, In meekness instructing thost that oppose them....

1 Timothy 3:2 - A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach; Not given to wine, no striker ... but patient, not a brawler ..

I would have interpreted these to say that we're called to a peaceful approach. Anyone?

WWJD wrote:

Paladin Said: Who wants a God that you must fear and humble youself to?

Scripture says:

Job 28:28
And unto man he said, Behold, the fear of the LORD, that is wisdom; and to depart from evil is understanding.

Psalm 19:9
The fear of the LORD is clean, enduring for ever: the judgments of the LORD are true and righteous altogether.

Psalm 34:11
Come, ye children, hearken unto me: I will teach you the fear of the LORD.

Proverbs 1:29
For that they hated knowledge, and did not choose the fear of the LORD

Psalm 111:10The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: a good understanding have all they that do his commandments: his praise endureth for ever.

Proverbs 1:7The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction.

Exodus 10:3
And Moses and Aaron came in unto Pharaoh, and said unto him, Thus saith the LORD God of the Hebrews, How long wilt thou refuse to humble thyself before me? let my people go, that they may serve me.

 and God is suppose to be all mighty  good and he spread fear among his flock 

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 Just, What Does It Mean to Fear the Lord?

1. Is it to be Afraid of God --- a Slavish Fear or Foreboding --- Apprehension --- fear that hath Torment? --- NO!

2. II Timothy 1:7, "For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind."

 Even at The Judgment --- we as Christians Should Have No Fear:

1 John 4:16-18, "And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us. God is love; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him. {17} Herein is our love made perfect, that we may have Boldness In The Day of Judgment: because as he is, so are we in this world. {18} There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love."

 The fear of the Lord is Not associated with Terror or Suspicion --- the kind of fear that makes a man wamt to Run And Hide From God as a cringing slave.

1. The fear of the Lord is the fear of a Loving Child for a Loving Father.

2. It is such a Reverence for God that the one who fears Him is Gripped by a Holy Desire To Please Him.

3. We stand in Awe of Him.

4. The Best Way To Understand what it means to fear the Lord is to discover What People Who Fear The Lord Are Like:

 When A Man Fears The Lord, It Implies That He Has Started To Know The Lord.

A. Proverbs 1:7, "The fear of the LORD [is] the beginning of knowledge: [but] fools despise wisdom and instruction."

B. Proverbs 9:10, "The fear of the LORD [is] the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy [is] understanding."

C. Proverbs 15:33, "The fear of the LORD [is] the instruction of wisdom; and before honour [is] humility."

D. Psalms 111:10, "The fear of the LORD [is] the beginning of wisdom: a good understanding have all they that do [his commandments]: his praise endureth for ever."

D.Y.R#7XTRUST wrote:

Don't kid yourself HELL is real!.. The Devil has some thinking that there is no HELL.. He is a master Liar since he invented it. I assure you when you get to HELL you will think differently...

 

Did you know that while you are preaching the good word and *stealing* articles from other peoples site and posting them without any acknowledgement is a crime? Well you should think about that and next time make a post, do in your own damn words.

Wow.  Look, I don't think anyone on earth has the authority to condemn anyone to hell.  I think Jesus and His Dad would be pretty pissed off at people making those judgements for them.

Willie, you're right about the long posts, and I'm guilty of it far too often!  My apologies.

And some preaching can come across as bullying, and no one likes a bully.  I realize the good intentions, but sometimes certain music sounds better at a lower volume.

BlinkeredKitten wrote:

You seem a little lost. Wandering from room to room? The coffee/chat room is down the hall a little.

Impressive. I'd have guessed you'd get as far as maybe 15 minutes.

Just kidding.