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| 11-17-2007, 11:32 AM |
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Paladin
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The Courts ruled that only the last few seconds of the beating were illegal.
I never felt sorry for King, but I did feel sorry for those Cops.
King was the author of his own misfortune..
In Cop Speak its called Failure to Comply.
Its very simple. If an Police Officer gives you a directive, as in Pull Over, get out of the vehicle, raise your hands in the air, or get down on the ground, it is not an directive open to debate.
You MUST comply or face possible consequences.
King did not comply when first directed by a Chip officer to pull over, nor to the LA Police request to pull over , ( untill he was boxed in ), not to their directive to get out of the vehicle, nor to lay face down on the ground.
Police Officers are only human. After an 8 mile high speed through crowded city streets, their addreline was pumping like crazy.
Kings failure to comply, his large size, appearance of being on drugs, resisting arrest, no reaction to 2 hits of a Tazer, only pushed the officers over their limit. Yes they lost it, but only briefly. In times of extreme stress, we all can lose it.
At that time , King was on probation and already had several convictions against him. To date, he still racks up arrests.
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| 11-17-2007, 10:14 PM |
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I had a cop pull a gun on me once and I had done nothing wrong....from personel experience I can tell you that cops can over react ..
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| 11-17-2007, 10:17 PM |
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| 11-18-2007, 3:55 PM |
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Paladin, you are a misguided soul. I feel sorry for you. Are you going try and tell me and everyone else that King deserved that sort of beating? You are nuts. No one under any circumstance needs to be brutalized in that manner. There are better ways. And besides that you saw what kind of backlash can result as of unfair treatment and rightfully so. Did you feel sorry for the guy that was pulled from his truck and kicked around like a football during the riots? Sure you did. And you did because it was not justified, plain and simple. NO ONE deserves to beat like an animal...in fact if you did that to a dog you would go to prison...yup prison. Check yourself Bro.
Together we stand, Divided we fall.
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| 11-18-2007, 4:30 PM |
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Ok......................
You are: hanging out, driving a car, picking your nose (I really don't care what you happen to be doing), and a guy with a gun says "don't be doing that".
Again, I don't care who this guy happens to be, fireman, cop, indian chief, punk kid (you get the idea).
Does not something inside you, kinda in the interest of self preservation, sorta wisper in your ear, that maybe it wouldn't be a bad thing to stop doing what the guy with the gun finds annoying?
Like, I'm really sure, that an arguement about your "rights", at that moment in time, is going to make a BIG difference.
"Rights" don't mean a whole lot to a dead person I *suspect*.
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| 11-18-2007, 6:08 PM |
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Paladin
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 Duke wrote:Paladin, you are a misguided soul. I feel sorry for you. Are you going try and tell me and everyone else that King deserved that sort of beating? You are nuts. No one under any circumstance needs to be brutalized in that manner. There are better ways. And besides that you saw what kind of backlash can result as of unfair treatment and rightfully so. Did you feel sorry for the guy that was pulled from his truck and kicked around like a football during the riots? Sure you did. And you did because it was not justified, plain and simple. NO ONE deserves to beat like an animal...in fact if you did that to a dog you would go to prison...yup prison. Check yourself Bro.
Misguided? According to who's navigational standards or beacon?
Did King deserve that beating, no. Do he ask for it , YES. During the trial the Judge stated that the actual " beating crime " was commited during the last 9-12 seconds of the video out of I believe some 87 seconds. Only during those last few seconds did they use excessive force.
Any High Speed Pursuit and Take Down results in an extreme addreline rush, possible tunnel vision, clowded thinking and impulsive actions.Like I said before, Policemen are just regular human beings with a Badge on.Yes they lost it, but none of it would have happened if only King had not " Failed to Comply".They deserved a Sever Repremind and Extra Retraining, nothing more.
As for beating someone like a animal? Check yourself Bro. Check yourself real good. You just let your own morals slip out. That expression is not even IN my vocabulary.
You don't know me duke, and I don't know you, but I am willing to guess that you go through life with Rose colored glasses and have experience very little of what this old world can throw at you.
Some days I even envey that. Most days, I thank God I don't.
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| 11-19-2007, 10:04 AM |
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It is an officers duty to Subdue a person if they feel himself and or others are in danger...It is an officers duty to protect even people from themselves...Beating a person does not reflect on this...Wether it be 2 seconds or 2 mins..it is wrong regardless of the history of the person...or condition of him..Said person did not have a physical weapon on himself other then the threat his size caused...they were people with guns ...hmm....They are given proper training to safley deal with this type of situation..and by choosing this profession are expected to follow this training...if this cannot be followed...get a new career..We are all human but the training and selection is difficutl to be an officer for a reason..
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| 11-19-2007, 3:37 PM |
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Paladin
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sass wrote: It is an officers duty to Subdue a person if they feel himself and or others are in danger...It is an officers duty to protect even people from themselves...Beating a person does not reflect on this...Wether it be 2 seconds or 2 mins..it is wrong regardless of the history of the person...or condition of him..Said person did not have a physical weapon on himself other then the threat his size caused...they were people with guns ...hmm....They are given proper training to safley deal with this type of situation..and by choosing this profession are expected to follow this training...if this cannot be followed...get a new career..We are all human but the training and selection is difficutl to be an officer for a reason..
Duty???
Hmmmm
Some people think that it is To serve and Protect.
The first duty of any Police officer is to get home to HIS loved ones in one piece at the end of his shift.
Proper training?
One of those officers actually failed his Qualification with a Nightstick just hours before going on his shift.He shouldn't have been allowed out on the street for his own protection.
Selection in most States is a joke. California is the biggest joke.
I never said they were inocent or justified in what they did. I only stated that their actions were the result of the stress of a High Speed Pursuit and Takedown. All the training in the world will not guarantee good results when the sh!t hits the fan.
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| 11-19-2007, 5:52 PM |
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| 11-19-2007, 7:50 PM |
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How many remember HIS name?
 
How many of you can even remember his name?
Rodney King bares the blunt of responsibility for this and many other crimes commited.
58 people were killed, many more injured.
REGINALD DENNY
Normandie Avenue was nothing out of the ordinary for 33-year-old Reginald Denny. In the late afternoon of April 29, 1992, he had simply loaded up his 18-wheeler and headed down the road, driving for his employer Transit Mixed Concrete. Little did he know that he would drive smack into the middle of an angry mob looking for vengeance.
As his rig crossed Florence, a group of rioters enraged over the Rodney King verdict rushed toward him, pulled him out of the cab and beat him to within an inch of his life. The attack ended when Damian Monroe Williams took a cinderblock and bashed Denny's skull, fracturing it in 91 places and causing severe brain damage.
The only reason he probably did not die that day was because four South Central residents, Bobby Green, Lei Yuille, Titus Murphy and Terri Barnett, who saw the entire incident on television, raced to the scene. Despite the risk to their own lives, they grabbed Denny, put him back into his cab and drove him to a nearby hospital where doctors were able to save his life.
Denny had to undergo years of rehabilitative therapy, but his speech and ability to walk were permanently damaged. After the trial of his assailants, he approached their families in a gesture of forgiveness. He later appeared on the Phil Donahue show to shake hands with one of them, Henry Keith Watson, and finally make peace.
Today, Denny has left Los Angeles behind. TIME made many efforts to contact him through intermediaries but they were unsuccessful; Denny largely avoids the media and rarely speaks about his ordeal. He works independently as a boat motor mechanic in Lake Havasu, Ariz., where he moved after the 1993 trial of his assailants and an unsuccessful lawsuit against the City of Los Angeles. Friends say he has gone on with his life and has even begun to drive again. "He's doing better," says one local who knows Denny. "It's slow for him, but he's getting better."
—Madison Gray
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| 11-19-2007, 8:41 PM |
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willie c wuddle
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Re: How many remember HIS name?
This *** is not cool.
Remember yesterday, respect tomorrow, live for today.
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| 11-20-2007, 5:07 AM |
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Re: How many remember HIS name?
And, at the end of the day, if Rodney King had been in Canada.....................
We would like to believe: NO beatings! NO trips to the hospital! NO lawsuits!
The police here would just taser him to death!
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