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Paladin wrote:

Yes, that's another story that I got from the Saint John paper online.

Rogersville is only a few miles outside Moncton, a lot closer to Moncton than to Saint John.

And that one was also in the T&T.

I dunno...it seems to me you have a bee in your bonnet about this. I'm sure you don't mean that you want to see every crime report pubished, but that's what it sounds like.

Newspapers want to sell their product. 'Juicy' tales of crime help sales so, if anything, crime tends to get exaggerated to achieve this aim. Reporting teenagers making a noise in a parking lot - yes I know I'm being selective about that - isn't going to have people flocking to buy the paper.

The actual crime itself is either news worthy or not. The only other reason for publication of minor crime is for the human interest angle or information - judging trends, that sort of thing. Or perhaps when the crime is the latest in a string of offences by an individual.

I've seen plenty along these lines.

No I wouldn't want EVERY report published, neither do I post everyone I come to.

Example is a story of an elderly man charged and convicted of Indecent Exposure. On his walk home from his local " watering hole ", he had the urgent need to relieve himself. As luck would have it, a squad car passed by and charged him. His name and the charge were online. I saw no benifit to anyone to post that at all. Why the article was in Print at all is beyond me.

I do believe that every B & E, act of vandalism, drug arrest,crack house, assault, child molestor or worse should be in print. People should be advised of what is going on in their area . The main purpose of a Newspaper is to inform its readers, and by doing that, make a profit, not the other way around.

Civilization had at first its Town Crier, followed by newspapers, then Radion, TV, and now the Internet. An informed society is an empowered society.

The Telegraph-Journal, and the Times & Transcript are owned by Canada East. If the Journal can have good crime coverage and even list the  street that the criminal lives on, I expect the same or even better from the Transcript.

Crime sells. Its sells more than stories about human interests,Mrs Gooffy's flower arangements or Joe Blowes article on Flytying.

Human interests and other such stories are great and serve their purpose, but they do little to inform the public of the dangers around us.

A bee in my bonnet?,,,Heck theres a whole swarm of them...

 

 

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I agree...the story of the guy relieving himself shouldn't be published. I don't even think that should be Indecent Exposure. It's a world away from Flashing which is at least harrassment. But that's another argument.

I don't agree all B&E and vandalism should be reported except for information and trend purposes. Maybe a feature a couple of times a week showing where it happened and in the case of a B&E whether it was home or shed and what was taken. Similarly with car theft.

As a matter of fact, I recall the T&T had just such a feature a couple of years ago. I wonder what happened to it.

The Human Interest element I mentioned...that was in relation to the specific crime not a general thing. I would not expect to read of a bike being taken from a cycle rack or garden unless it was the fifth in the area in10 days or the third outside that store in a couple of days....or the consequence of its loss was newsworthy, like losing a job because the bike was the only reasonable means of getting to work.

When I first moved to Moncton I was buying both Telegraph-Journal and the T&T before deciding which I wamted as 'my' paper. I wanted...no, NEEDED to know what was happening in my new city. I actually felt the TJ was better. But it was too much 'Saint John' so I settled for the T&T. I saw no difference in the way the papers approached ccrime reporting.

I had occasion to see the TJ again a couple of months back. I thought why can't the T&T be as attractive as this one? But Moncton content is more important and the T&T meets those needs.

As a matter of interest, does anyone know why there are no Sunday papers? In Quebec I used to get the Montreal Gazette 7 days a week. Now THAT was a good paper. Even the National Post and Globe & Mail doesn't come out Sundays. But Nova Scotia has them.

I used to cycle to Reid's to get a Halifax one, just so I could still have a Sunday Paper. But it just wasn't the same.

Vaild points. The joys of differences of opinion.

Yes The TJ is a very attractive paper. Many times I go to MacDonalds for dinner, not just for the food but to actually read their papers. They carry the T & T , TJ, and the Globe and Mail.

Years ago, before Sunday Store openings, the T & T was a strong advocat of it and was always saying, " Give the people what they want", in the editorials. I wrote an letter, " To The Editor ", saying fine, then when can I expect to be able to get a Sunday Paper? It was never printed nor did I get a reply.

I can however, live without a Sunday Paper as I am a great believer in Sunday being a recognized " Day of Rest", not for Religious purposes but so that as many families as possible in this hectic world could plan for a day off together.  

 

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I emailed the T&T over a year ago about something unrelated and I threw in the extra question about why no Sunday T&T.

I couldn't believe the answer. Non answer was probably a better description.

"I guess it's just policy" was what the woman said. It sounded like she didn't even ask anyone let alone look into it.

Can it be a religion thing?

Weekends are certainly important for family life. My desires for weekend papers go back to my single life in England. The weekday papers were for lunchtimes at work. Something more in depth was good at weekends, plus most sport there is on Saturdays so one reads previews on Saturdays and reports on Sundays.

A rainy day, coffee and toast relaxing with the paper. Heaven.

 

BristolUK wrote:

Can it be a religion thing?

Weekends are certainly important for family life. My desires for weekend papers go back to my single life in England.

 

Have you ever thought about family life being important to thsoe who produce the papers?

Why place an extra burden on these individuals when producing a newspaper on Sundays isn't exactly a necessity?

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DanLirette wrote:

Have you ever thought about family life being important to thsoe who produce the papers?

Why place an extra burden on these individuals when producing a newspaper on Sundays isn't exactly a necessity?

Yes I have. I'm not so wrapped up in my world that I don't consider the views of other people. I'm sure there are plenty of people willing to do that just as there are any number of people willing to do and doing all those other things that aren't necessities.

BristolUK wrote:

DanLirette wrote:

Have you ever thought about family life being important to thsoe who produce the papers?

Why place an extra burden on these individuals when producing a newspaper on Sundays isn't exactly a necessity?

Yes I have. I'm not so wrapped up in my world that I don't consider the views of other people. I'm sure there are plenty of people willing to do that just as there are any number of people willing to do and doing all those other things that aren't necessities.

most people are not willing to work on Sunday's they have to in order to survives and /or keep their jobs

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notme wrote:

most people are not willing to work on Sunday's they have to in order to survives and /or keep their jobs

It doesn't take 'most' people to run a newspaper on a Sunday, or to open up a store on a Sunday, or to open a restaurant or a cinema etc etc on a Sunday. It only takes some or enough. I'm sure some people would like to work Sundays.

I take it for granted that most - if not all - people would rather not have to work at all if they could have a comfortable life without a wage. Accepting that there's no other option, people will generally do what suits the most.

Is working on a Sunday worse than working nights? Or working 12 hour shifts? I know what I prefer!!!!

In England I knew plenty of people, usually single people with no family responsibilities, who actually preferred working on a Sunday because it was "such a dull day at home." They were also quite happy working the other holidays too, preferring to have time off on other days of the week or at other times of the year.

I'm sure there are people who feel the same in Canada. Not everyone dislikes working Sundays.

"who actually preferred working on a Sunday"

Not to mention Sunday is a "double time" day.

(as our many city employees have figured out, there being virtually no snow removal happening on Saturdays, but Sunday is a whole different story)

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In England I knew plenty of people, usually single people with no family responsibilities, who actually preferred working on a Sunday because it was "such a dull day at home." They were also quite happy working the other holidays too, preferring to have time off on other days of the week or at other times of the year.

england has always being different from other countries    ..because people usually like their Sunday off because they can have time with other people    because most people in Canada have Sunday off    it should be only essentials necessity that are working on Sundays

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here's some bad news today the guy that molested my grand kids was released from jail he is walter maxwell sharpe

he is under 2 years house arrest and not allowed around any kids under the age of 18

 

the court system has failed in their wisdom because he is going to move back into the home he was in before he molested my grand kids and right now there is a 9 year old child living there

well don't know if this message is totally legal but then again i don't care just trying to alert people in the high and dominion streets area the edith cavell school has already been alerted

 

thank you sg71272 formerly oldman

Well, he's supposed to be in his home.  If he's seen outside his home, report it to the RCMP.  Then he'll likely end up in jail for the 2 years.  Consider it his one chance at redemption.

notme wrote:

england has always being different from other countries    ..because people usually like their Sunday off because they can have time with other people    because most people in Canada have Sunday off    it should be only essentials necessity that are working on Sundays

You're wrong about England mate. Simply wrong. This has been debated in exactly the same way in England ever since Sunday Trading laws were first being discussed.

Like I said a few weeks ago, the same things you and others are saying are said the world over. Countries with Immigration have debates about whether there are too many immigrants, countries with a Social Security system argue if there are too many people 'scrounging' from it, countries where the shops open Sunday have debates about whether it's right or wrong.....

You'll be telling us next that it's only in Canada where people wait a long time for hospital appointments!!

 

him being outside is a small problem there is a child in the house where he is but that also has been reported