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Last post 23 hours, 18 minutes ago by petslover99. 177 replies.
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  •  04-25-2008, 10:24 AM

    Re: PROTEST PETS UNLIMITED!!! JOIN IN AND MAKE YOUR VOICE HEARD!

    Get off your soap box.Get off your high horse. Sombodys getting emotional and irrational,. aren't they? Oh well, another disgruntled employee!! Whoops.
  •  04-25-2008, 3:06 PM

    Re: PROTEST PETS UNLIMITED!!! JOIN IN AND MAKE YOUR VOICE HEARD!

    White Knight wrote:
    Get off your soap box.Get off your high horse. Sombodys getting emotional and irrational,. aren't they? Oh well, another disgruntled employee!! Whoops.

     

    Ok, did I miss something here?


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  •  04-26-2008, 6:40 PM

    Re: PROTEST PETS UNLIMITED!!! JOIN IN AND MAKE YOUR VOICE HEARD!

    Pets Unlimited does not work with the SPCA any more.

    Just popped in there (Mountain Rd store) and they were cleaning!! Sweeping, cleaning the pens, etc!! I darn near clapped!!! Lets hope they have got the message and keep up the good work. They have a long way to go but if they work hard Eric could have a business to be proud of, instead of an embarrassment.

  •  05-29-2008, 2:11 PM

    Re: PROTEST PETS UNLIMITED!!! JOIN IN AND MAKE YOUR VOICE HEARD!

    I know that the puppies from pets unlimited come from a puppy mill.  I was recently at one of the moncton stores looking around with a few friends and we started up a conversation with one of the employees.  As we got talking, I asked where the dogs all come from, and the reply from the employee was suspicious.  She said that a lot of people have been asking that question since the Oprah special on puppy mills and that I should not worry. She said that they aren't allowed to say where the dogs come from, but that her manager had visited the facility and said that it was a clean place where they do not force the dogs to breed.   I was shocked that all the dogs in the pet store (at least 15 different breeds) had all come from the same breeder!  The employee also went on to say that the facility that supplies the dogs for that particular store in moncton supplies ALL the pets unlimited stores with dogs, and that they are constantly getting shipments of dogs that have to be delivered to numerous other stores!!! I have seen the Oprah special on puppy mills, and have heard of the terrible conditions these poor dogs are in before...I just don't know what I can do about it.   The fact that the employee told me that the dogs aren't forced to breed tells me nothing, I can only imagine where those puppies come from.  I would LOVE to see something done about it, and stop the inhumane treatment of animals!
  •  05-29-2008, 2:17 PM

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    JDL wrote:
    I know that the puppies from pets unlimited come from a puppy mill.  I was recently at one of the moncton stores looking around with a few friends and we started up a conversation with one of the employees.  As we got talking, I asked where the dogs all come from, and the reply from the employee was suspicious.  She said that a lot of people have been asking that question since the Oprah special on puppy mills and that I should not worry. She said that they aren't allowed to say where the dogs come from, but that her manager had visited the facility and said that it was a clean place where they do not force the dogs to breed.   I was shocked that all the dogs in the pet store (at least 15 different breeds) had all come from the same breeder!  The employee also went on to say that the facility that supplies the dogs for that particular store in moncton supplies ALL the pets unlimited stores with dogs, and that they are constantly getting shipments of dogs that have to be delivered to numerous other stores!!! I have seen the Oprah special on puppy mills, and have heard of the terrible conditions these poor dogs are in before...I just don't know what I can do about it.   The fact that the employee told me that the dogs aren't forced to breed tells me nothing, I can only imagine where those puppies come from.  I would LOVE to see something done about it, and stop the inhumane treatment of animals!


    So what from the conversation cited EXACTLY makes you KNOW the puppies from the chain store pets unlimited (you said from "pets unlimited" not from a particular store) come from puppy mills.

    Surely as you stated later the conversations made you "suspicious" and rightly so, the answers do seem fishy and suspect.  But SUSPECTING something and KNOWING something aren't at all the same thing. I suspect the sun will rise tomorrow I KNOW you used words incorrectly.


    Your post was deleted by Paladin.Reason: get off the forum
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    Paladin wrote:
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  •  05-29-2008, 10:20 PM

    Re: PROTEST PETS UNLIMITED!!! JOIN IN AND MAKE YOUR VOICE HEARD!

    Ok, I was trying to make a point, I am upset that dogs are being treated so inhumanely...you really didn't have to pick apart my comment! Yes, I said I "know", I was trying to get my point across, I obviously didn't run out and hunt the puppy mill breeder down to see for myself that it was in fact that....however, what kind of breeder is going to put their dogs in a pet store??  And from what the employee was saying a puppy mill is exactly where the dogs are coming from.  This isnt the first time I have heard such things from the pets unlimited chain either, I have friends who have purchased sick puppies there which also brings about the puppy mill conditions...what responsible breeder sends sick puppies to the pet store?
    Anyways, I put my comment on here to bring awareness to others who may have been considering a puppy from a pet store...not to cause a fight.   I just think something needs to be done for these poor dogs in general.
  •  05-29-2008, 11:17 PM

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    JDL wrote:
    Ok, I was trying to make a point, I am upset that dogs are being treated so inhumanely...you really didn't have to pick apart my comment! Yes, I said I "know", I was trying to get my point across, I obviously didn't run out and hunt the puppy mill breeder down to see for myself that it was in fact that....however, what kind of breeder is going to put their dogs in a pet store??  And from what the employee was saying a puppy mill is exactly where the dogs are coming from.  This isnt the first time I have heard such things from the pets unlimited chain either, I have friends who have purchased sick puppies there which also brings about the puppy mill conditions...what responsible breeder sends sick puppies to the pet store?

    Anyways, I put my comment on here to bring awareness to others who may have been considering a puppy from a pet store...not to cause a fight.   I just think something needs to be done for these poor dogs in general.


    It's late I'm a bit punchy I'll be sorry tomorrow

    1)Ok, I was trying to make a point, I am upset that dogs are being treated so inhumanely...you really didn't have to pick apart my comment! Yes, I said I "know", I was trying to get my point across, I obviously didn't run out and hunt the puppy mill breeder down to see for myself that it was in fact that

    So make your point, state fact as fact, suspicion as suspicion. You said you knew something when in fact you didn't. In point of fact saying you KNOW they are buying from puppy mills could be considered LIBEL. Now I am just a hot head on a message board but better you learn that lesson from me than a team of lawyers.

    2) however, what kind of breeder is going to put their dogs in a pet store??

    The kind that isn't selling enough puppies by word of mouth, the kind that doesn't mind working on consignment sales with a pet store, the kind who doesn't want the overhead of looking after the animals just facilitating their production ?

    3)This isnt the first time I have heard such things from the pets unlimited chain either,

    Nor I and just as many have been full of hyperbole and unsubstantiated claims. I don't deny that it happens, nor do I condone that it does. To quote some of the best writing out there however "It doesn't matter what I know it only matters what I can prove" (although in that case the speaker actually only suspected the truth though with perhaps a bit more firmness than you or I have about pets unlimited)

    4) And from what the employee was saying a puppy mill is exactly where the dogs are coming from

    "
    She said that a lot of people have been asking that question since the Oprah special on puppy mills and that I should not worry"

    "
    She said that they aren't allowed to say where the dogs come from, but that her manager had visited the facility and said that it was a clean place where they do not force the dogs to breed"

    She said that you shouldn't worry, the animals came from a clean place and that the dogs were not forced to breed. So you think she was lying or her manager lied to her ? What gave you that impression ?

    5)
    I have friends who have purchased sick puppies there which also brings about the puppy mill conditions

    This statement confuses me, the fact that pets unlimited sells sick puppies makes puppy mill conditions.... do what exactly. I can't bridge the gap between puppies being sick at the pet store and puppy mills, are you saying they were sick before they got there ? If so then the pet store should  put them down, send them back, make them better, and/or notify the authorities if necessary whichever makes the most sense based on cost and prior experience with said distributor.

    6) what responsible breeder sends sick puppies to the pet store?

    The kind that thinks they'll get better, that the pet store (or the new owner) will send them to a vet, that doesn't want that dog infecting the other dogs they have

    7) I just think something needs to be done for these poor dogs in general.

    It does, really and truly. The best way to accomplish that is with FACTS and PROOF not with hyperbole, suspicions, and libelous statements. For each individual dog sold by pets unlimited, that dog gets a better home, for the overall benefits of dogs it would be better if no dogs were sold so demand went down and if the breeder(s) are as bad as you suspect they went out of business. The best situation would be for someone to investigate this completely and then make available their findings to the public and the proper authorities.




    Your post was deleted by Paladin.Reason: get off the forum
    You are banned, going for walks in peaceful places is bannable now
    Paladin wrote:
    I will also be making an official report with the Police.That was a Threat.Be prepared for the consequences.

  •  05-30-2008, 8:10 AM

    Re: PROTEST PETS UNLIMITED!!! JOIN IN AND MAKE YOUR VOICE HEARD!

    I do get what you are saying, don't get me wrong...but do you really have nothing better to do then to pick apart people's comments on the forum?? Its moncton for gods sake!...anyways, this is no longer worth my time since I see that you are only going to use a "supirior" way of translating my postings which I find insulting.  I  am PERSONALLY convinced that the pets unlimited chain is using a puppy mill therefore I find nothing wrong with the way I wrote my comments, i.e. with "I Know"....and frankly I don't care if you don't think they use one for not!
  •  05-30-2008, 9:05 AM

    Re: PROTEST PETS UNLIMITED!!! JOIN IN AND MAKE YOUR VOICE HEARD!

    I understand teh frustration that you feel towards Z but have you noticed, we don't usually say "I KNOW" unless we really do. We use "In my opinion" which states clearly that you might not have facts but in your mind this is what you believe. It takes time to learn the ways of teh forum but once you do it's really not that bad. Sorry for your experience but he really is a good guy that just needs everything to be very clear. But still a very good guy
    Just waiting till it's all over.
  •  05-30-2008, 11:26 AM

    Re: PROTEST PETS UNLIMITED!!! JOIN IN AND MAKE YOUR VOICE HEARD!

    Cautiouslizard wrote:
    I understand teh frustration that you feel towards Z but have you noticed, we don't usually say "I KNOW" unless we really do. We use "In my opinion" which states clearly that you might not have facts but in your mind this is what you believe. It takes time to learn the ways of teh forum but once you do it's really not that bad. Sorry for your experience but he really is a good guy that just needs everything to be very clear. But still a very good guy


    Good guy or not next time I might as well just forward the libelous statements on to the wronged party. and in Canada libel is one of the two cases left where the defendant has to prove he didn't do it.


    Definition

    298. (1) A defamatory libel is matter published, without lawful justification or excuse, that is likely to injure the reputation of any person by exposing him to hatred, contempt or ridicule, or that is designed to insult the person of or concerning whom it is published.

    Mode of expression

    (2) A defamatory libel may be expressed directly or by insinuation or irony

    (a) in words legibly marked on any substance; or

    (b) by any object signifying a defamatory libel otherwise than by words.

    R.S., c. C-34, s. 262.

    Publishing

    299. A person publishes a libel when he

    (a) exhibits it in public;

    (b) causes it to be read or seen; or

    (c) shows or delivers it, or causes it to be shown or delivered, with intent that it should be read or seen by the person whom it defames or by any other person.

    R.S., c. C-34, s. 263.

    Punishment of libel known to be false

    300. Every one who publishes a defamatory libel that he knows is false is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding five years.

    R.S., c. C-34, s. 264.

    Punishment for defamatory libel

    301. Every one who publishes a defamatory libel is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding two years.

    Yes precedent has shown that "on the internet" counts. It isn't me you need to worry about appeasing it's if the wrong set of eyes sees it on a bad day, unless of course you fancy a 2 or 5 year less one day vacation and a civil suit. Don't think anonymity will save you moncton.net and/or your isp can be forced to give you up if a warrant is served on them.



    Be warned, Be safe, Be thankful it's just Zymry the cyber bully and not pets unlimited and their lawyers.

    Here's a case you may find interesting I sure did
    http://www.wired.com/politics/law/news/1999/05/19894


    Your post was deleted by Paladin.Reason: get off the forum
    You are banned, going for walks in peaceful places is bannable now
    Paladin wrote:
    I will also be making an official report with the Police.That was a Threat.Be prepared for the consequences.

  •  05-30-2008, 11:41 AM

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    Thanks Z, that is really cool to know this info and that goes for everyone on here to just be careful what you type cause you just never know (really easy to google any words and bring up any comments). "My opinion" will not result in any trouble as you are intitled to your very own opinion. So for everyone out there, be warned!!

    Thanks again


    Just waiting till it's all over.
  •  05-30-2008, 11:58 AM

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    Cautiouslizard wrote:

    Thanks Z, that is really cool to know this info and that goes for everyone on here to just be careful what you type cause you just never know (really easy to google any words and bring up any comments). "My opinion" will not result in any trouble as you are intitled to your very own opinion. So for everyone out there, be warned!!

    Thanks again



    Thats why penn and teller use terms like ***, ***, and bullshit instead of quack, liar, fraud. the first three get you sued WAY less.


    Your post was deleted by Paladin.Reason: get off the forum
    You are banned, going for walks in peaceful places is bannable now
    Paladin wrote:
    I will also be making an official report with the Police.That was a Threat.Be prepared for the consequences.

  •  23 hours, 18 minutes ago

    Re: PROTEST PETS UNLIMITED!!!

    Isn't that much fun looking at a beautiful boxer puppy (for example) with a pretty 1300$ (or more) price? And what I call "a pure beauty" (still sarcastic), is to see the same puppies a month later. The price is lower and puppies are bigger!! ranting [ranting]

    A 700$ for a puppy is still ok for a pets shop .. but a 1300$, when you know you may have a pure bred for 600$ .. is really stupid!

    Hello Pets Unlimited! Its VERY CRUEL for your animals!

    Who will pay for a dog who is already adult and NOT TRANED because he grew up in a pets unlimited store !?

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