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Last post 09-09-2007, 7:29 PM by notme. 35 replies.
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Awesome Pal,
You rock too!!!
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07-25-2006, 12:51 PM |
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Re: Dear Prime Minister Harper
HOW ABOUT FORWARDING THIS INFORMATION TO ANYONE AND EVERYONE WHO WILL HELP...
IT TAKES JUST A FEW MINUTES AND IT CAN CHANGE SO MUCH
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Re: Dear Prime Minister Harper
liladamuse wrote:
HOW ABOUT FORWARDING THIS INFORMATION TO ANYONE AND EVERYONE WHO WILL HELP...
IT TAKES JUST A FEW MINUTES AND IT CAN CHANGE SO MUCH
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I have forwarded it and also have it posted on these other sites.
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Sadly ,all the above combined,do not equal the exposure we have gotten here at Moncton.net.
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Its been a while,,But we're still trying to keep tabs on this..
2006/09/12
LNG opponents add three new voices in Head Harbour fight
ST. STEPHEN - LNG opponents in Charlotte County have added three new members to the Save Passamaquoddy Bay/Canada steering committee.
"In making these new appointments, we are filling some gaps with highly experienced and committed individuals," said Janice Harvey, the group's co-chair.
Save Passamaquoddy Bay/Canada is fighting three American developers who want to build liquefied natural gas import terminals on the Maine side of Passamaquoddy Bay.
Jessie Davies, of St. Andrews, a retired director of UNB's Environment and Sustainable Development Research Centre, will critique the environmental impact statements being prepared for the terminals.
John Clark, of St. Andrews, and John Williamson Jr., of Ottawa, will join the steering committee as government relations co-chairs. Clark was president of J. Clark & Son Limited in Fredericton for 40 years. Williamson serves as federal director of the Canadian Taxpayers Federation.
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Feds oppose LNG traffic in N.B.
Feds oppose LNG traffic in N.B.
With a proponent of a liquefied natural gas terminal lobbying MPs in Ottawa, Tobique-Mactaquac Conservative MP Mike Allen wanted the government's opposition to be crystal clear.
So he asked Prime Minister Stephen Harper to re-iterate the government's position during question period.
"I gather there are some representatives of that project lobbying around the Hill today, so let me be absolutely clear," the prime minister said.
"This government believes that the waters of Passamaquoddy Bay are Canadian waters. We have defended that position for a long time. We oppose the passage of LNG traffic through Head Harbour and we will continue to do so."
Allen said afterwards that the proponent, Downeast LNG, had suggested during a meeting with him that the government was wavering in its opposition and he wanted to show them that the prime minister remained steadfastly opposed.
"I wanted to get the prime minister on record to say that it is exactly where we were and it was unqualified," Allen said.
From the Globe and Mail
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Future of one Maine LNG project in doubt
Telegraph-Journal=2006/09/30
ST. STEPHEN - The quietest of three liquefied natural gas projects on the Maine side of Passamaquoddy Bay took a hit Thursday with the announcement one of its key developers was bolting to work on another LNG project.
Fred Moore, the former Passamaquoddy Tribal Representative to the Maine Legislature, has joined Quoddy Bay LNG, the Oklahoma-based company developing an LNG import facility at Split Rock on the Passamaquoddy Reservation at Pleasant Point.
The Quoddy Bay project is one of three in development on Passamaquoddy Bay. It, along with a project steered by Downeast LNG, continue to move along the U.S. regulatory process. Moore's LNG development has made little progress since it was announced in 2005.
Moore said in a news release the lack of progress on the Calais project was a factor that drove him away. That proposal was to build an LNG import terminal in Red Beach, across the St. Croix River from Bayside, N.B., and near the St. Croix Island International Historic Site.
Moore told WQDY radio that the future of that project is "anybody's guess."
Moore added in a news release the Quoddy Bay project will become a huge part of the Washington County economy and will bring major benefits to the Passamaquoddy Tribe.
"Benefiting the tribe has always been my first priority," Moore said in the release.
Meanwhile, the developer of the Downeast LNG project got a frosty reception on a recent trip to Ottawa when Prime Minister Stephen Harper stated his opposition to the projects in the House of Commons.
St. Andrews mayor John Craig, who says his town will be the biggest loser if an LNG industry is permitted in Passamaquoddy Bay, had a simple message for the American developers.
"Go home," he said.
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It sounds like the fox is expected to tell the chicken of his intentions," said Hugh Akagi, the Chief of the Passamaquoddy First Nation in the Saint Andrews area, and that isn't his idea of justice.
Akagi is concerned about consultation problems he has perceived in energy provider Emera's efforts to build a pipeline through southwestern New Brunswick. The Nova Scotia-based company is seeking to deliver natural gas to the U.S. via the 30-inch diametre "Brunswick pipeline," 90 per cent of which will pass through traditional Passamaquoddy territory. But Akagi claims his people have been denied access to due process and left out of negotiations.
"The main problem is that no one is protecting traditional culture and heritage and their connection to this territory," Akagi said. "We are the protectors of this land, and we should be consulted when things are happening on it."
But there is a distinct problem. The traditional lands of Akagi's nation that line Passamaquoddy Bay are divided by the St. Croix river, which was 200 years ago imposed as an artificial boundary between British North America and the United States. The territory today remains divided into Washington County, Maine and Charlotte County, New Brunswick, leaving the nation with two nationalities.
Cases like this one have been addressed extensively in Canadian courts, and the regulations exist for the consultation of Native North American peoples for development proposals on traditional territory. The company applying to develop land must demonstrate through documentation that it has consulted with First Nations authorities.
In the "Report on the Consultation Process related to the Proposed Development of the Brunswick Pipeline with New Brunswick First Nations," Emera is said to have demonstrated "comprehensive consultation," ensuring that First Nations communities received notification and input on the proposed plans. But Akagi says his First Nation - the one whose traditional territory could be compromised - was the last to know. Emera was able to fulfill the legal requirement for development without consulting the Passamaquoddy; due in part to where they are geographically situated, the Passamaquoddy are not recognized as a Native North American band by the Canadian government.
At the same time, the Passamaquoddy have full treaty access to the lands in question.
"They did not use proper protocol," said Akagi. "What use is it to consult people in Eel ground or Madawaska, and not consult the people who are indigenous to the territory and who live on it?" He said the development threatens traditional practices, such as hunting and the gathering of herbs and roots for traditional medicines, and their retention depends in part on consultation from Emera.
"But our major concerns are the burial grounds," he said. "My people have lived on this land for thousands of years, and it's always possible that something could be disturbed in development. Normally the province ensures that archaeologists will speak with us, but that hasn't happened." But ultimately there is little recourse to contest the development. Akagi said the Passamaquoddy is seeking band status with the help of the provincial government. He said he isn't sure what his options are, whereas it may be past the point where anything short of a lawsuit could alter the course of the pipeline.
"But then, it's them that has the money, not us," he said.
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N.B. to fight U.S. LNG plant plans
canadaeast news service
The Department of Intergovernmental Affairs has retained a U.S. law firm, allowing the provincial government to seek intervener status in the upcoming hearings into two controversial liquefied natural gas terminals in Passamaquoddy Bay.
"The government has provincial interests that it wants to make sure are part of the proceedings," said Gisele Regimbal, a departmental spokeswoman. "As an intervener we will be going in and presenting those interests: the environmental, the safety and security, the economic interests that we have with respect to these projects."
The department could not officially name the law firm because it has not finished contacting the U.S.-based firms that were contacted and not hired to take on the task.
Regimbal said the firm has experience in these proceedings.
A groundswell of opposition has grown against two LNG terminals planned in Maine that would result in tankers passing through Canadian waters at Head Harbour Passage.
Downeast LNG has a $500-million plant earmarked for Robbinston, Me., while Quoddy Bay LNG is looking to build a terminal in Pleasant Point, Me.
The Federal Energy Regulatory Commission, a U.S.-government administrative tribunal, has set deadlines for potential interveners to apply for standing in the hearings for Jan. 16 and Jan. 22 for Downeast LNG and Quoddy Bay LNG respectively.
As an intervener, the New Brunswick government will receive all documents tabled in the proceedings as well as reinforcing the province's perspective at the hearings.
"Without being an intervener you aren't officially part of the process. By being part of the process we can ensure New Brunswick's interests can be represented throughout," Regimbal said.
Janice Harvey, of Save Passamoquoddy Bay-Canada, said she wasn't surprised that the province finally hired a U.S.-based legal team to challenge the LNG projects.
"The opposition is so universal in New Brunswick that for the province not to be there to speak on behalf of its citizens and the communities, particularly around Passamaquoddy Bay and its approaches, would look very bad on the other side of the line," Harvey said.
St. Andrews Mayor John Craig called the move a great symbolic gesture in support of those who stand in opposition to LNG tankers entering Passamaquoddy Bay.
"It's a big step, absolutely. It is wonderful to see the province of New Brunswick helping out and fighting this battle against the industrialization of Passamaquoddy Bay," Craig said.
"We in St. Andrews are very appreciative of the government stepping in because they have deeper pockets than a municipality would."
The provincial government's move doesn't come as much of a surprise, considering Premier Shawn Graham vowed to hire U.S. legal counsel in a Sept. 4, 2006, letter to two of his Charlotte County Liberal candidates in the last election.
"We recognize that only through timely intervention can the province's opposition to LNG in Passamaquoddy Bay be effectively heard and that only such timely intervention will qualify the province to appeal to the United States courts to reverse any license that FERC may grant," Graham's letter stated.
In that mid-campaign letter, Graham said he had "safety and environmental concerns" over the proposed construction of an LNG terminal at Pleasant Point in Passamaquoddy Bay, Me.
The FERC review could drag on up to 18 months, so it is difficult at this time to pinpoint how high the legal bills will accumulate for the province, according to the departmental spokeswoman.
"Because of the complexity of the process, it really depends on the strategy and how far in the process we are involved. Until that strategy is developed it is difficult to put a dollar figure on it," Regimbal said.
The regulatory board, according to Harvey, will give additional weight to the province's interventions than it would a citizens group.
That added heft in the hearings means a lot, Harvey said, adding that Save Passamaquoddy Bay-Canada has also applied for intervener status. The province's application for intervener status, as Graham's letter stated, means if FERC rules for the LNG projects, the government can appeal in the U.S. courts.
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Passamaquoddy Update-Canada says no to LNG tankers
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Canada says no to LNG tankers
TELEGRAPH JOURNAL February 15th, 2007
The Harper government has now formally taken a clear position on mammoth tankers carrying liquefied natural gas into a tricky passage of Passamaquoddy Bay and told the Americans no way.
Michael Wilson, Canada's ambassador in Washington, expressed the government's formal opposition in a letter sent Wednesday to the chairman of the U.S. Federal Energy Regulatory Commission (FERC).
Canada "will not permit LNG tankers to pass through Head Harbour Passage," says the letter, made available by officials in Ottawa.
Calling Head Harbour Passage sovereign Canadian water, and the area environmentally sensitive and a challenging channel to navigate, the passage of the 300-metre-long tankers poses risks Canada cannot accept, it says.
"We are therefore prepared to use domestic legal means to address our concerns and prevent such passage from occurring," says the letter.
Canada's position is consistent with public statements Prime Minister Stephen Harper made last fall and the stance adopted by the local MP, Veterans Affairs Minister Greg Thompson, roughly two years ago.
But coming as it does as the FERC prepares for hearings on two proposed terminals, the letter should kill the projects in Maine, Thompson suggested Wednesday.
"The only way they could revise their plans is to take it somewhere else down the coast of the United States," he said.
"Any of those terminals that would involve travel through Head Harbour Passage, this would be a very strong deterrent "... (to be) taking on a sovereign nation."
Yet one LNG proponent said the letter changes nothing.
Downeast LNG president Dean Girdis said Wilson's letter won't deter his company from trying to establish an LNG terminal in Robbinston, Me., across the bay from St. Andrews.
"I'm already so far into this it's too late to stop," Girdis said Wednesday.
He said the bulk of the expense in seeking permits has already been spent and that Downeast LNG will continue working through the regulatory process.
"We're full steam ahead. This changes nothing," he said.
He also questioned Wilson's tactic. "It appears that the Canadian government is trying to short-circuit the U.S. regulatory process."
Thompson did not elaborate on what specific steps Canada would take to back up its opposition.
"We're examining every regulation or action we could take to enforce that position," he said.
The government did commission a study of the safety and environmental impacts the LNG proposals could have on Canada, but has not released it.
Thompson insisted Canada's position will not damage Canada-U.S. relations.
"Not at all," he said. The letter states the government's willingness to continue working with the U.S. to meet its energy needs. The several LNG proposals and projects underway elsewhere in Canada, intended to serve the U.S. market, illustrate that co-operation, said Thompson.
And asked what the decision would mean for his constituents, Thompson argued it was not made with local politics in mind.
"It's important for all citizens - it's Canada standing up for the environment and for our fishermen.
"We're doing it for all the right reasons."
John Craig, the mayor of St. Andrews, has been one of the loudest critics of the proposed LNG projects. He said Wednesday that Wilson's letter is the strong statement from Ottawa that he's been hoping to hear.
"I'm quite ecstatic," he said.
"To hear from Michael Wilson, the ambassador, strongly saying that it won't happen is good news."
He said his hope is that the LNG developers and their backers will back down now that they've heard clearly than Canada won't allow LNG tankers into Head Harbour Passage.
"Hopefully this will send a strong message to all developers that the game is over," Craig said.
Girdis said he expects government at the state and federal levels as well as the U.S. State Department and FERC will support the review process for his LNG proposal and will support the right of ships bound for U.S. ports to pass through Head Harbour Passage.
"We know we have rights of passage," Girdis said.
A spokesman for another developer, Quoddy Bay LNG, said he could not comment on Wilson's letter.
Head Harbour Passage, between the northern tip of Campobello Island and Deer Island, is no more than 1,800 feet wide at its narrowest and is notorious for high tides, extreme currents and unpredictable fog.
Canadian opponents of the Maine LNG projects have argued that the LNG supertankers would deter tourists, threaten endangered northern right whales and whale-watching, and dislocate fishermen and aquaculture operations.
Four New Brunswick opponents had just left Ottawa when Wilson's letter became public.
They'd spent three days lobbying government officials.
The four opponents were Janice Harvey, co-chair of the Save Passamaquoddy Bay-Canada coalition, David Welch, a St. Andrews town councillor and the operator of a whale-watching business, Deer Island fisherman Dale Mitchell and Margot Sackett, director of the Ross Museum in St. Andrews.
They could not be reached for comment. They had argued Canada could use the shipping act to ban the passage of the tankers, or simply refuse to co-operate with U.S. Homeland Security regulations for LNG tankers.
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1,000 gather to protest Passamoquoddy Bay LNG development

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1,000 gather to protest Passamoquoddy Bay LNG development
2007 08 08
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http://www.cbc.ca/canada/new-brunswick/story/2007/08/07/lng-protest.html
A group of 1,000 protesters took over the St. Andrews, N.B., wharf Tuesday to protest proposed liquefied natural gas (LNG) terminal developments in the area.
Protesters said the three LNG terminals proposed for the Passamoquoddy Bay would affect the environment as well as quality of life and tourism in the area.
Two American natural gas companies have applied to the U.S. Federal Energy Regulatory Committee for the right to pass through New Brunswick waters to terminals on the northeast coast of Maine. If the application, which is still under review, is approved, there could be a steady stream of freighters in the area.
The federal and provincial governments have joined with residents and voiced opposition to the passage of the tankers, which are approximately 12 storeys high and four football fields long.
Margot Sackett, with the group Save Passamoquoddy Bay Canada, said there are numerous reasons why the projects should not be approved.
"Passamoquoddy Bay is an extraordinary resource, marine and cultural resource," she told CBC News. "The entrance is in Canadian waters, the tankers would have to go through those and through the very dangerous Head Harbour Passage … it's a very unsuitable place to place LNG terminals."
For residents, the prospect of constant tanker traffic is a big concern.
"It's hard for me to think that my life wouldn't be impacted by a freighter the size of four football fields coming down that view line," said local resident Gwenda Gauley.
St. Andrews Mayor John Craig said the area's tourism industry could also be jeopardized if the project is approved.

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"We're a tourism area, it's not an industrial area," he said. "Don't mix the two together, and we don't want our way of life destroyed by this sort of thing put in the Passamaquoddy Bay."
Residents on the American side of the bay also joined Tuesday's protest.
"This is a bay effort, it isn't an individual effort. Maine and certainly the U.S. have got to understand that it's not just little bitty bitty town after bitty town. It is in fact the whole bay," said Suzanne Crawford, who lives across the bay from St. Andrews.
The decision on the LNG projects could take a long time. Protesters said they would continue their efforts until they can be sure tankers won't be allowed in the bay.
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Re: 1,000 gather to protest Passamoquoddy Bay LNG development
someone told me tonight that this is a go and things will start in November...has anyone else heard this or have an update to the status?
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Re: 1,000 gather to protest Passamoquoddy Bay LNG development
Starry wrote:someone told me tonight that this is a go and things will start in November...has anyone else heard this or have an update to the status?
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