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Don't trust the Moncton SPCA!

Last post 07-23-2007, 10:13 AM by Major Bernie Bently. 70 replies.
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  •  05-30-2007, 3:57 PM

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    Wow I had to sign up just to have my say on this.  I can't believe the attack mode you have all got on here.  This person posts an issue they had with the SPCA...and everyone goes in attack mode. It just turned into a spitting contest. 

    I for one want to thank you because honestly I would not have known that I had to go in to file a complaint or look for my pet.  I would have called gave a description and believed them on the phone.  Thank god your friend went in, who knows what would have happened to her cat if she hadn't. 

    And the person that posted ahead of me.  I would have took your response as an attack too. ALL CAPS SAYING TO GO IN.  After all the previous comments I would have been on defense mode also. 

    Best of luck.

  •  05-30-2007, 4:07 PM

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    well I apologize for over reacting...but I am not a member of the psychic alliance...and with everyone saying I should have went in blah blah ....

    GO IN YOURSELF....Save yourself the time and wondering

    So when you said that I took it as you where saying the same crap that everyone else did.  There are no lines to read inbetween. 

    But I tried this message board got attacked...I am moving on.  Trying to help people and getting attacked does not feel to great. 

    Thanks findneek...I went in attack mode too...I learned that from my 4 pound toy min pin...he's a viscious guard dog...no really he is....hmmm maybe he learned that from me...who knows.  But I am done wasting my time.


    "The future belongs to those who believe in the beauty of their dreams. Eleanor Roosevelt"

    "No one loves you unconditionally as your beloved pet." ~~I have nothing but sympathy for those that can't relate.



  •  05-30-2007, 4:11 PM

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    Excuse me...for starters..i don't attack people on here..I was reinstating what you had said about "Going in"...If you have any doubt in the future as to the meaning of my post please do not hesitate to post it on here or send me a PM and ask me....

    You are welcome to post here anytime you want..and if you feel in the future you are attacked...Send a message to the admin..if they agree with you the person wether it be me or someone else..they will gladly revoke their membership...

     

  •  05-30-2007, 4:27 PM

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  •  05-30-2007, 4:38 PM

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    I didn't say YOU attacked me.  If you could please read what i wrote I apologized for over reacting...and then I explained why I over reacted...geeez.

    Since I feel so welcomed...and everyone was so sweet and kind ....I'll post daily..

    I've posted this same letter on various blogs....not one has had this reaction.


    "The future belongs to those who believe in the beauty of their dreams. Eleanor Roosevelt"

    "No one loves you unconditionally as your beloved pet." ~~I have nothing but sympathy for those that can't relate.



  •  05-30-2007, 7:09 PM

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    It is easy enough to say... Take a picture of every animal that comes through the door and post it online everyday... but unless you are willing to pay for the film and the time it takes to update a website that most likely will not be happening anytime soon.

    As for thinking that these employees are there for a paycheck, think again most of them get minimum wage, see injured and abused animals daily, and deal with death on a regular basis.  They see more animals come through the door on an hourly basis.  Do you really expect them to remember every animal. Did you ever stop to think that possibily when you called your friends cat really wasn't there at the time. Animals are brought in constantly it isn't like there is a waiting period where you can only drop off animals at certain times of the day.  Also you have clearly stated that YOUR cat was NEVER there.  As for "someone" stealing your "property"... what was your "property" doing roaming the neighborhood?  Maybe do a little investigative work yourself and find out who this "guy" is and then go to the RCMP yourself about this issue.

    But please don't think that these people are working at the SPCA and making big bucks because that is far from the truth.  Most are stressed to the max because of what they deal with on a daily basis.  As for not trusting them... I know several people who would go into the SPCA even after calling just to double check.

    As for me not knowing what I am talking about... Well your wrong there. I know all to well what these employees see on a daily basis and most of it is horrific and sad.

  •  05-30-2007, 7:29 PM

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    Did  I say they were rich???? I said to them it's a job...I never said anything about making fantastic wages.  I worked as an animal technician...and at that time I was paid 5.50 an hour.  I am not naive...I guess just too trusting that people do their jobs.  I never said  expected them to REMEMBER every animal that goes into the shelter. I just want them to look if they say they are going to.  As I typed earlier in english it stated MY CHILD ACCIDENTALLY LET THE CAT OUT...my cat is an indoor cat...so being ignorant to me is childish. 

    I really don't know why so many people are being childish and immature about this.  I just wanted to post my concerns so no one would lose their pet.  I am an animal lover.  I will go to the end of the earth to save or rescue an animal.  My husband and I have given up the ability to purchase a house because we have 3 BIG DOGS and 2 small dogs.......my cats and my rabbits...It cost a fortune to feed and take care of them.  I work two jobs to support them.  So talking down to me like I don't care is pathetic...I was concerned about others peoples animals.  I'd hate to see anything happen to someone elses and they dont' GO TO THE SPCA.  THere is no one on here that can tell me that EVERYONE IMMEDIATLEY GOES IN TO THE SPCA...they call.  I called the SPCA...and the radio stations...within 3 hours or her missing.  SO don't judge me as I let my cat out.  IF it ever happened to me again I'd go in because  now I know they can't be trusted.  All they have to say on the phone is it's best to come in...they don't...that is my problem.

     


    "The future belongs to those who believe in the beauty of their dreams. Eleanor Roosevelt"

    "No one loves you unconditionally as your beloved pet." ~~I have nothing but sympathy for those that can't relate.



  •  05-30-2007, 11:42 PM

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    First timer here.  Had a friend tell me to check this out.  Thought I might find it interesting.  Really I find the entire situation unfortunate.  Unfortunate anyone's pet was lost in the first place.    Unfortunate an organization such as the SPCA is being harmed since they only deal with the consequences of the first mistake when the pet was lost.  Unfortunate a pet had to wait to be reunited. 

    The whole thing has nothing to do with trust.  It is about being human and humans will always make mistakes.  A mistake occurred on yours or your friends part when the cats were lost in the first place.  Doesn't make you a bad owner, just means you made a mistake.  So perhaps the person at the SPCA checking for your lost cat also made a mistake.  Also does not make them a bad person.  Many things could happen.  Maybe the cat truly wasn't there yet.  Maybe they looked and based on a phone conversation did not feel there were any animals matching what information they had.  I have pets, cats and dogs and everyone of my friends would describe them to me differently.  Maybe they just made a mistake.   Does that mean they are not trust worthy?  Hmmm, didn't you also make a mistake?  Now I read the parts about people attacking each other, so I would like to say that No, I do not think that makes you untrustworthy or a bad person any more than I think it does any one else who has made a mistake.  Highly doubt there is anyone out there who hasn't, in both their personal and professional lives. 

    I hope your intentions are to help others if they also suffer through losing a pet.  But this manner will only harm animals that need the shelter by causing people to hesitate supporting such a good organization.  Constructive solutions would probably serve better.   Nobody needs to wait for an invitation to look for a lost pet.  It is not like waiting for a dentist appointment.  Your friend could have just as easily been told their cat was there, gone in to look and had it been the wrong cat.  So would that also mean the person on the phone lied to you?

    I am happy the cat in question was kept safe at the shelter until reunited, regardless of how that happen.  It could have wandered further, been injured, hit by a car or killed on the streets.  When we get pets we are 100% responsible for them and no body else.

     

  •  05-31-2007, 12:24 AM

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    I over- reacted yes. Because a statement as strong as "Don't Trust The Moncton SPCA"  can clearly cause problems for this organization.

    This causes people to be wary of this organization.  The SPCA has had plenty of bad publicity in the past because of individuals jumping the gun. Usually over policies and procedures.  

    The shelter does the best it can with what it has.  It is over populated on a regular basis especially at this time of the year because of the number of un-altered (not neutered or spayed) cats that are allowed to run loose and breed.  The owners then figure that they can just drop these kittens off at the shelter and never think about it again. Or worse yet they allow these kittens to mature and run free thus allowing them to breed and the process continues.

    Without this shelter there would be a major problem of over populated animals running rampant in Moncton.  Yes someone made an error but to assume that this happens on a regular basis is wrong. 

    Your absolutely right Concerned. My friends would not describe my dogs the same way that I would describe them.

    An employee walking through the aisles of the shelter looking for (for example) a white cat with several black patches and curly whiskers who is friendly and meows. well they may see no cats that match this or 10 cats that match this description. 

    What made me so upset about this thread was how negative it was towards the hard working employees at this shelter. who may see on any given day 60+ animals.

    Yes a mistake was made. Fortunately the cat was reunited with the owner as for the other cat it was never actually in the shelter and so no the employee did not lie to you. They actually did not see your cat there.

    Next time you have a complaint to lodge against a shelter that works on donations and volunteers, becareful how you word it because you could just persuade some dumbass to take the matter into their own hands and just drown that litter of kittens instead of taking them to a shelter where "untruthful" people work... which is better.... just think about that!

  •  05-31-2007, 12:51 AM

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    These are quite long posts and I have been sipping on good brew. I love cats and dogs. Buddy is bitching at me and reminding me that I love birds. He tries to answer my phone and tries to type on my keyboard when I'm away. He is a budgie. He tries his best. We tried to read these posts for the last two days but we watched tv and ate crackers instead.
    Remember yesterday, respect tomorrow, live for today.

    The problem with North America is stupidity. I'm not saying there should be a capital punishment for stupidity, but why don't we just take the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself?
  •  05-31-2007, 4:06 AM

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    sorry everyone...sorry I was concerned over someone losing their pet...sorry I wanted to make sure everyone that ever lost one didn't take the persons word on the phone at the SPCA.

    Yeah I came to this board to bash the spca...in no way was my letter a concern about my situation, my friends...and no where in that letter was it a warning to everyone.  How stupid to think anyone would want to know someone else experience so they could be cautious.  This is the most ignorant board I ever ever bin too.  I have posted this in animal lovers boards EVERYWHERE"S...no one else flipped out and took freak attacks.  How dare I not trust the SPCA?  How dare I be disgusted that my friends cat could have been put down?  HOw dare I be mad that everytime we cald they said the cat was not their. How dare that offend me?  It's not like they kill the animal there...oh wait thy do.  Oh just a mistake...shouldn't be a concern because they are over worked.  I will remember that when I do people's taxes and I am working 14 hours a days ON MY WEEKENDS (VOLUNTEERING!!!!!!!!!!)...oh well...mistakes happen....who cares if a pet is euthanized because they didn't tell the person to COME IN they don't have time to look.

    What is wrong with you people.  SO glad I posted here. 

     


    "The future belongs to those who believe in the beauty of their dreams. Eleanor Roosevelt"

    "No one loves you unconditionally as your beloved pet." ~~I have nothing but sympathy for those that can't relate.



  •  05-31-2007, 5:55 AM

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    The only reason I came on here and signed up for an account was to share my poetry, find my family, and warn people so they could keep their pets safe.  I don't see what was so horrible about that. Or why I got the negativity I did. 

     


    "The future belongs to those who believe in the beauty of their dreams. Eleanor Roosevelt"

    "No one loves you unconditionally as your beloved pet." ~~I have nothing but sympathy for those that can't relate.



  •  05-31-2007, 6:31 AM

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    I think that people honestly do sympathise with you and you are right in saying that a person should just go in to prevent the unfortunate incident that you went through as well as your friend...We are glad the cat is back with you as well because most of us on here are animal lovers.  You posting your original post on here is beneficial ,don't get us wrong..You reinforced that if one loses a cat or any pet don't bother calling but to go directly and see for yourself..

    I believe why people did get upset really was not to offend you but because they are big supporters of the SPCA.  When someone strongly believes in something they defend them..Defending the SPCA though does not take away from the value of your message.. As much as we support the SPCA I think because of what you wrote if any of us losses a pet we would go in rather then call due to your post.  So your post wasn't written in vain.  It will most likely save another pet down the road.

    With this forum, topics that seem simple sometimes take on a life of it's own.  The threads did go to defend the SPCA and lose light of your situation.  I think the direction it should have taken which is where I tried to take it was what can we do to help improve the SPCA and protect the animals of the Greater Moncton and surrounding area.  But unfortunately posts were misinterpreted and offense was taken on a personal level by some including myself..Then the chain effect happens...

    The people on this site are really a great bunch of people.  New members are normally welcomed with open arms..I hope this one thread does not turn you away from the site..there have been many hot topics that have caused quite the heated debate...Read through the site..You will see.  Peoples emotions get the best of them in the moment..But..that sometimes is what makes a good site.  I see other people have joined the site specifically to jump in on this debate.  please don't take offense to your first experience on moncton.net.  Stay, read other threads, post your poetry (Something I personally enjoy reading and writing)..just remember as I said , your post was not written in vain, people will head your warnings wether they admit it or not and next time..go in and see for themselves. 

    Welcome to Moncton.net...have a great day!!!!

  •  05-31-2007, 7:22 AM

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    Nobody has said they don't sympathize with you and your friend.  Perhaps the message would have been better recieved and more beneficial to pet lovers if you had provided steps to take when looking for a lost pet.  Places to check for it.  How to keep pets as safe as possible.  And yep, even don't take somebodies word on the phone...there is no possible way they can give you a definate answer that your pet is or isn't  there.  Base it on personal experiences. 

    I would have assumed to go and double check myself.  If not everyone does than your message would have been well served.  But to warn people off an organization that some animals truly need will only harm those animals in the long run.  I am concerned more people will pick up on the heading of the message and hot tempered "warning" and replies within.  The point of the message will be missed and animals will suffer as a result...which I am sure was not the intent.

    SO:

    All pets should have identification.

    Microchip or tattoo

    Spay or neuter to prevent wandering

    Contact all local shelters and veterinarians in the surrounding area....Go in to double check yourself.

    Contact radio stations, newspapers....

    Post fliers

    Leave pictures

    Check with neighbors

    Check places an animal could be hiding under or trapped.

    That is just a start....

  •  05-31-2007, 7:45 AM

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    Thank you Sass, again I am sorry for over reacting...but with people getting their panties in bunch because I posted a situation I was geniunly concerned about and I felt I needed to share my story to help others....I did not realize me posting something that was scary and put my life in panic for a week would cause other such anger. I feel that my time here was wasted and nobody took what I was saying at face value...and instead took it the way they wanted as a bashing of the SPCA...There are no lines on this board...So I am not sure what everyone was reading inbetween. I was expressing my concerns about an orgainization that I trusted. No matter what organizations it is...if something negative happened or something bad should happen...shouldn't people be warned? When the red cross had the tainted blood scandal...should the public never have known...they do an amazing job and help alot of people...but the public has the right to know any wrong doing or anything to look out for so they can be aware. I do hope your right and someone will read what I wrote and if their pet is missing they will go in.

    Sorry concerned...I was not aware in order to post I had to post in grave detail the solutions.....my apologies...again I was the dumbass that trusted the SPCA employee....your the intelligent one and everyone would go in IMMEDIATLEY after being told their pet is not there.....I know should have went in the very minute she said my cat wasn't there...there there...I know.


    "The future belongs to those who believe in the beauty of their dreams. Eleanor Roosevelt"

    "No one loves you unconditionally as your beloved pet." ~~I have nothing but sympathy for those that can't relate.



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