Moncton Forum

Bulert wrote:

No I am forced to know it. School makes it mandatory and when I apply for jobs, I loose out because I do not speak French that well. I am sorry but English is the world language so, excuse me for not speaking French. They can go to Quebec and speak it

That's not very fair. If you can speak french in NB(which is biligual no matter what you want) you will get a better chance of getting a job. Yes most people can speak english but why should we? If we want to be served in french it's our right. We don't have to go to quebec to speak it as NB is biligual. It's going to be your problem for not having as many choices due to you not wanting to learn a second language (what is so wrong with being biligual?). But don't go whinning about loosing out on jobs just because you choose to be closed minded. The schools just want to give you a better opportunity here in NB by forcing you to learn french(most jobs you do need to deal with both languages). I was forced to learn english in school also and I'm glad that it's mandatory as my child will also have those benefits of being biligual. Being biligual just makes a person that much more intelligent. I see nothing wrong with that. I am proud to be biligual and would love to learn more languages.

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Cautiouslizard wrote:

Bulert wrote:

No I am forced to know it. School makes it mandatory and when I apply for jobs, I loose out because I do not speak French that well. I am sorry but English is the world language so, excuse me for not speaking French. They can go to Quebec and speak it

That's not very fair. If you can speak french in NB(which is biligual no matter what you want) you will get a better chance of getting a job. Yes most people can speak english but why should we? If we want to be served in french it's our right. We don't have to go to quebec to speak it as NB is biligual. It's going to be your problem for not having as many choices due to you not wanting to learn a second language (what is so wrong with being biligual?). But don't go whinning about loosing out on jobs just because you choose to be closed minded. The schools just want to give you a better opportunity here in NB by forcing you to learn french(most jobs you do need to deal with both languages). I was forced to learn english in school also and I'm glad that it's mandatory as my child will also have those benefits of being biligual. Being biligual just makes a person that much more intelligent. I see nothing wrong with that. I am proud to be biligual and would love to learn more languages.

My father is pure french, while mom's side is English/Jewish/German.

I'm a mixed breed.

That said, because I have french blood, I can say that I think billingualism is a GOOD THING, but for anyone to FORCE the issue is ignorant.

One should not be turned down from employment because they cannot speak french; thats' biased.

NB is the only mandatory billingual province in all of Canada.

Yes, learn french.

Yes, have french as an option.

NO, don't dicriminate against English people because they aren;t Acadian French.

Oh..Bulert, many Quebec-ers laugh at Acadians because of their half french/half english dialect; acadians aren't true frenchmen.

And before any acadians throw stones my way....

MY FATHER IS FULLY ACADIAN.

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Sorry but if I go to a store that has one worker (just a small independent store) being a visitor let say. If I don't understand english why can I not get served in my language knowing that we live in a billigual province? Why should they pay 2 people to do the job of one due to them not speaking both languages. It's not discriminating anyone. Employers are smart about it and won't pay two salaries.

Would you??

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Funny how it's only the english portion of NB that complains about billigualism.

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That's because most of the french speaking population in NB are english speaking as well.  There are an awful lot of us english speaking folks that don't know french, and please understand, THAT'S NOT OUT OF CHOICE.  I wish I knew it!  And that's my point.  Want to pay for my courses?  I'll go learn it!

mike6x5 wrote:

That's because most of the french speaking population in NB are english speaking as well.  There are an awful lot of us english speaking folks that don't know french, and please understand, THAT'S NOT OUT OF CHOICE.  I wish I knew it!  And that's my point.  Want to pay for my courses?  I'll go learn it!

Good point.

And oh, CL..... the statement here is correct; most french people know english.

Why don;t THEY have respect for the non french speaking community, humble themselves and speak english when needed?

I mean, I've seriously never met any french person who LIVES in NB who COULD NOT speak or understand english.

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Well then for those people there are places in NB that you do not need french as much but here in moncton, french is in demand. English speaking nbers should go to miramichi, minto, harcourt etc. but those people cannot complain if can't get a job in moncton because of the need of french that's not our fault or problem either. I worked at NBCC in moncton night school and we gave french programs for 125$ (which isn't bad if you think about all the jobs that would open up for you). 

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WWJD wrote:

mike6x5 wrote:

That's because most of the french speaking population in NB are english speaking as well.  There are an awful lot of us english speaking folks that don't know french, and please understand, THAT'S NOT OUT OF CHOICE.  I wish I knew it!  And that's my point.  Want to pay for my courses?  I'll go learn it!

Good point.

And oh, CL..... the statement here is correct; most french people know english.

Why don;t THEY have respect for the non french speaking community, humble themselves and speak english when needed?

I mean, I've seriously never met any french person who LIVES in NB who COULD NOT speak or understand english.

Most people will speak english to please, but we do slip up just like everyone else. Yes we mostly all understand around this area but go to tracadie and I have met people that just don't speak english. Obviously you haven't been up north too much  alot of people in bathurs are the same way. campbelton etc...

But would you (if you own a bussiness) hire two people to do the job that one billigual person can?

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If I want to be a carpenter I'll learn to swing a hammer.

If I want to be a pilot I'll learn to fly.

If you want to be a Mountie I'll wear the uniform.

If I want to work with the public I'll do my best to learn to understand the public whether English or French.....or Timbuctouish ( not to be confused with Tim from Bouctouche) for that matter. Once I was total English with a total French customer with nobody else around. We tried speaking, sign language, writing, and even drawing pictures. Eventually my bilingual boss came in and was surprised to see what we accomplished. I'm still trying to learn both English and French.

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willie c wuddle wrote:

If I want to be a carpenter I'll learn to swing a hammer.

If I want to be a pilot I'll learn to fly.

If you want to be a Mountie I'll wear the uniform.

If I want to work with the public I'll do my best to learn to understand the public whether English or French.....or Timbuctouish ( not to be confused with Tim from Bouctouche) for that matter. Once I was total English with a total French customer with nobody else around. We tried speaking, sign language, writing, and even drawing pictures. Eventually my bilingual boss came in and was surprised to see what we accomplished. I'm still trying to learn both English and French.

And I admire people who at the least try. It's the ones that live here and complain about not being able to get a good job but doesn't want to learn so that they too can apply for the same jobs. I sure wouldn't hire two people to do one job and I'm sure no one that has a business would want to either.

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Cautiouslizard wrote:

Bulert wrote:

No I am forced to know it. School makes it mandatory and when I apply for jobs, I loose out because I do not speak French that well. I am sorry but English is the world language so, excuse me for not speaking French. They can go to Quebec and speak it

That's not very fair. If you can speak french in NB(which is biligual no matter what you want) you will get a better chance of getting a job. Yes most people can speak english but why should we? If we want to be served in french it's our right. We don't have to go to quebec to speak it as NB is biligual. It's going to be your problem for not having as many choices due to you not wanting to learn a second language (what is so wrong with being biligual?). But don't go whinning about loosing out on jobs just because you choose to be closed minded. The schools just want to give you a better opportunity here in NB by forcing you to learn french(most jobs you do need to deal with both languages). I was forced to learn english in school also and I'm glad that it's mandatory as my child will also have those benefits of being biligual. Being biligual just makes a person that much more intelligent. I see nothing wrong with that. I am proud to be biligual and would love to learn more languages.

After reading numerous comments made I really have to wonder who the closed minded person is.  Atleast I in my comments while directing my concerns have not completely insulted a whole category of people.  Gee nice posts...How old are you....For the record I am marrid to a man from Bathurt and whose whole family lives in Bathurst and I have not encountered any rudeness ..Atleast not like I have from this thread...This is not in reference to anything WWJD said..take it from there

Point is, if the government has stated we are an offiacially bi-lingual province then they should pay for english speakers to learn french and vice-versa. It goes both ways on this issue. I am sure there are only french speakers out there that can't get jobs because they cannot speak english.

I can understand for teh older generation that didn't have french in schools, and yes there should be a gov funded program for those people, but the kids now a days, have the choice to actually learn what is being taught in the schools. If they choose to not pay attention and actually realize they will need it later on in life, living in NB, they will have a hard time with employment by their own fault.

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Older generation??????   I am only 31

Yeah not sure how old you are talking.. I am only 25.