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Talk about pushing your beliefs on people!
Last post 03-02-2007, 9:41 AM by peter222. 67 replies.
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Re: Its is " natures " way of continueing the species.
As for the crack pipe analogy, crack kills and ruins lives, homosexuality doesn't.
it might not kill people on the short run but it does on the long run the existance act of sex and 2 specoes is for reproduction and 2 same sex cannot reproduce so they are killing the human race
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| 03-01-2007, 5:44 PM |
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Re: Its is " natures " way of continueing the species.
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| 03-01-2007, 5:54 PM |
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Re: Its is " natures " way of continueing the species.
very interesting
read this
http://www.frc.org/get.cfm?i=IS04C02
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| 03-01-2007, 6:02 PM |
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Paladin
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Re: Talk about pushing your beliefs on people!
 Faulty wrote:
The kids have to be exposed to things like this, give them the information, let them decide one way or another by themselves, teach them critical thinking and they'll make the right decisions.
===Where does it stop..?
Shall we expose them to porn, drugs, and other activities that people like to engage in...
As for the crack pipe analogy, crack kills and ruins lives, homosexuality doesn't.
==News Fkash !!! Hiv and Aids leading causes of death in Homosexuals...
Keeping you informed, entertained and amused.. Moncton.net archives-http://www.moncton.net/canadian%2Ddiscussions/ Moncton.net Chat-http://www.moncton.net/e/chat.aspx "The world is a dangerous place to live; not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it." - Albert Einstein -
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| 03-01-2007, 6:20 PM |
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Re: Its is " natures " way of continueing the species.
notme wrote: As for the crack pipe analogy, crack kills and ruins lives, homosexuality doesn't.
it might not kill people on the short run but it does on the long run the existance act of sex and 2 specoes is for reproduction and 2 same sex cannot reproduce so they are killing the human race
C'mon, even you know that's bullshit. People f#ck. Most of them do it for pleasure. Most people go through certain measures to insure that it is strickly for pleasure. Homosexuals can't reproduce so therefore, they are killing the human race. Very logical.
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| 03-01-2007, 6:25 PM |
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Re: Talk about pushing your beliefs on people!
Paladin wrote: Faulty wrote:
The kids have to be exposed to things like this, give them the information, let them decide one way or another by themselves, teach them critical thinking and they'll make the right decisions.
===Where does it stop..?
Shall we expose them to porn, drugs, and other activities that people like to engage in...
Sure. Degrassi showed me all those things when I was a kid.
Paladin wrote: Faulty wrote:
As for the crack pipe analogy, crack kills and ruins lives, homosexuality doesn't.
==News Fkash !!! Hiv and Aids leading causes of death in Homosexuals...
I though everyone knew by now that straight people can also have AIDS.
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| 03-01-2007, 6:30 PM |
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Re: Talk about pushing your beliefs on people!
Took the words out of my mouth Vlad
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| 03-01-2007, 6:49 PM |
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Re: Talk about pushing your beliefs on people!
EDIT: I need glasses
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| 03-01-2007, 7:15 PM |
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Re: Talk about pushing your beliefs on people!
Vlad Drac wrote:
As for the crack pipe analogy, crack kills and ruins lives, homosexuality doesn't.
==News Fkash !!! Hiv and Aids leading causes of death in Homosexuals...
I though everyone knew by now that straight people can also have AIDS.
I thought every knew that homosexuality also kills,,guess I was wrong..
But hey,,now YOU know..
Keeping you informed, entertained and amused.. Moncton.net archives-http://www.moncton.net/canadian%2Ddiscussions/ Moncton.net Chat-http://www.moncton.net/e/chat.aspx "The world is a dangerous place to live; not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it." - Albert Einstein -
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| 03-01-2007, 7:18 PM |
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Re: Talk about pushing your beliefs on people!
Vlad... you didn't know?
I suggest you stay off of Moncton Locals....you show signs of classic brainwashing.
Dan Lirette
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| 03-01-2007, 8:24 PM |
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Re: Talk about pushing your beliefs on people!
Paladin wrote: Vlad Drac wrote:
As for the crack pipe analogy, crack kills and ruins lives, homosexuality doesn't.
==News Fkash !!! Hiv and Aids leading causes of death in Homosexuals...
I though everyone knew by now that straight people can also have AIDS.
I thought every knew that homosexuality also kills,,guess I was wrong..
But hey,,now YOU know..
homosexuality kills? please enlighten me. Oh, and if you want to take the sex for creation only path, lets group anyone and everyone who uses condoms into the sinner role as well.
paladin - we teach our kids about drugs, we should probably talk to our kids more about porn, it's all information. Information has never hurt a child. teach the kids how to think critically, instill your morals as a parent early on and no amount of information will "corrupt" your child.
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| 03-01-2007, 8:28 PM |
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Re: Talk about pushing your beliefs on people!
Continuing what Faulty said....I would like to add that I would rather have my child learn facts as opposed to learning from their peers
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| 03-01-2007, 8:41 PM |
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Re: Talk about pushing your beliefs on people!
Well, it's happening. It happened at localmoncton.com and c103.com. The subject of homosexuality came up again and again and opinions kept clashing and everyone claimed to be right. And all it resulted in was hard feelings and pretty much the destruction of those boards. Perhaps not literally, but they're now pale shadows of what they once were.
I have my own experiences with interactions with others re: opinions about the gay lifestyle. I don't have a problem with what others want to believe, as long as it doesn't hurt anybody else. But, I did get hurt when I had to defend myself when I was painted to be a person I wasn't. So, I began to become somebody I didn't want to be. And I don't know how to stop it, except plead silence.
I think a lot of us should do the same when it comes to this subject now, before this whole thing explodes and there's nothing else left.
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| 03-01-2007, 8:42 PM |
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Re: Talk about pushing your beliefs on people!
You're right, Faulty; we teach our kids about drugs. I tell my 9 year old NOT to take drugs because of their harmful effects. I also tell my 9 year old daughter that homosexuality is just as dangerous due to their community being a bredding place for pedophiles. Debate that fact ![Wink [;)]](/emoticons/emotion-5.gif)
Dan Lirette www.icminternational.org
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| 03-01-2007, 8:45 PM |
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Re: Talk about pushing your beliefs on people!
An essay on adult sex offenders in the book Sexual Offending Against Children reported: "It is widely believed that the vast majority of sexual abuse is perpetrated by males. Indeed, with 3,000 adult male sex offenders in prison in England and Wales at any one time, the corresponding figure for female sex offenders is 12!" This finding was echoed in a report by the American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children, which stated: "In both clinical and non-clinical samples, the vast majority of offenders are male."
References:
Dawn Fisher, "Adult Sex Offenders: Who are They? Why and How Do They Do It?" in Tony Morrison et al., eds., Sexual Offending Against Children (London: Routledge, 1994), p. 11.
John Briere et al., eds., The APSAC Handbook on Child Maltreatment (Thousand Oaks, California: Sage Publications, 1996), pp. 52, 53.
Dan Lirette
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