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Last post 07-19-2008, 7:41 AM by Paladin. 36 replies.
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  •  08-15-2007, 9:01 PM

    Re: 1,000 gather to protest Passamoquoddy Bay LNG development

    Starry wrote:
    someone told me tonight that this is a go and things will start in November...has anyone else heard this or have an update to the status?

    Last I heard they were still talking...


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  •  08-16-2007, 2:16 PM

    Re: 1,000 gather to protest Passamoquoddy Bay LNG development

    Paladin wrote:

    Starry wrote:
    someone told me tonight that this is a go and things will start in November...has anyone else heard this or have an update to the status?



    Last I heard they were still talking...



    well I thought they were still talking too and now since being told about November I am really wondering about it...
  •  08-29-2007, 7:22 PM

    "Zones of Concern." or "Hazard Zones."

     




     

         

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    Living in the Hazard Zones

    LNG Developer-designated Hazard Zones
    in Passamaquoddy Bay & Grand Manan Channel
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    What Downeast LNG & Quoddy Bay LNG
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    "Zones of Concern" = Hazard Zones

    Zones of potential threat to life, health, property, environment, and existing uses that accompany LNG ships are euphamistically referred to as "Zones of Concern." A more accurate term is "Hazard Zones."

    These zones include the following hazards:

    • Zone 1within 500 meters (0.3 mile) of the ship
      • Death by cryogenic freezing
      • Death by fire or explosion
      • Death by asphyxiation (suffocation)
      • Cascading LNG containment failure (three or more of the ship's LNG containers would likely fail)
      • Destruction of the LNG ship and crew
      • Everything within this zone would likely be destroyed
      • Death to surface plankton
      • Death to surface and diving birds
      • Death to flying birds
      • Death to fish near the surface
      • Death to surfacing sea mammals (whales, porpoise, dolphin, seals)
      • Grass fires
      • Zone 2within 1,600 meters (1 mile) of the ship
        • Death by cryogenic freezing
        • Death by aspyxiation (suffocation)
        • Death or injury by fire or explosion
        • 2nd-degree burns within 30 seconds of exposure
        • Property destroyed or damaged by fire or explosion
        • Death to surface plankton
        • Death to surface and diving birds
        • Injury or death to flying birds
        • Serious injury or death to surfacing sea mammals
        • Forest and grass fires
        • Zone 3within 3,500 meters (2.2 miles) of the ship
          • Death by aspyxiation (suffocation)
          • Death or injury by fire or explosion
          • 1st-degree burns from a ship pool fire
          • 2nd-degree burns if sufficiently exposed to a ship pool fire
          • Property destroyed or damaged by fire or explosion
          • Injury or death to animals
          • Forest and grass fires
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            Proposed LNG Ship Transit Route

            Developers are considering a route through Grand Manan Channel. They have selected that route to reduce criticism for endangering right whales; however, taking any route, they cannot guarantee that right whales won't be in their path.

            Note the Hazard Zones that accompany transiting and berthed LNG ships:

            • Red = Zone 1
            • Gold = Zone 2
            • Green = Zone 3
            • Aqua = Security Zones around berthed ships
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              (Below) Composite image of Quoddy Bay LNG's proposed LNG ship transit route through Passamaquoddy Bay's Head Harbour Passage and Western Passage, to the two proposed berths at Split Rock at Sipayik. The Hazard Zones that would accompany each ship are surrounded with red, gold, and green lines.

               

              Hazard Zones along Quoddy Bay LNG's proposed ship route

              (Above) Quoddy Bay LNG's proposed transit route through Grand Manan Channel and into Passamaquoddy Bay.

              Security Zones around berthed ships at Sipayik

              (Above) The security zones around Quoddy Bay LNG's two proposed berths at Split Rock in Western Passage of Passamaquoddy Bay

                                                                                 

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  •  08-30-2007, 4:21 PM

    Harper to Bush: no tankers



         

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    Politics Harper uses summit to strengthen Canada's opposition to U.S. ships using Passamaquoddy Bay as an LNG route

    Rob Linke
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    http://telegraphjournal.canadaeast.com/actualities/article/61871
    August 30th, 2007
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    OTTAWA - Prime Minister Stephen Harper has reiterated in a private meeting with U.S. President George W. Bush that Canada will not let massive tankers carry liquefied natural gas through tricky Head Harbour Passage.

    The channel, which Canada considers internal waters, runs between Campobello and Deer islands in Passamaquoddy Bay. It is on the only route LNG tankers could take to and from two terminals proposed for sites nearby in Maine.

    Harper raised the issue at their private Aug. 20 meeting during the Security and Prosperity Partnership summit at Montebello, Que., during an afternoon session crowded with issues such as Afghanistan, trade and U.S. requirements for Canadian travellers to carry passports.

    Harper had raised Canada's objections to the tankers directly with Bush at least once before, said a spokeswoman for the prime minister.

    "The president is aware of Canada's position on this issue (and that) we will continue to oppose this initiative," Carolyn Stewart-Olsen wrote in an e-mail.

    Veterans Affairs Minister Greg Thompson, whose New Brunswick Southwest riding is home to fierce local opposition to the tankers, said Harper was reminding the president "we haven't lost sight of it.

    "It indicates how important this is to us and to the prime minister, that he raised it at this high level.

    "You can't go any higher than that."

    In Opposition two years ago, Thompson called Head Harbour Passage "the most dangerous waterway to navigate on the entire East Coast" as he repeatedly pressed Paul Martin's Liberal government to block the tankers.

    The government was still studying its options when the Conservatives took power.

    Canada first expressed its formal opposition last February in a letter from Canada's ambassador in Washington, Michael Wilson, to the chairman of the U.S. federal energy regulator.

    The Federal Energy Regulatory Commission is assessing applications for two LNG terminals along the Maine coast.

    Quoddy Bay LNG has chosen a site near Eastport, Maine., across from Fairhaven, Deer Island.

    Downeast LNG seeks approval for a site near Robbinston, Maine., directly across from the seaside resort town of St. Andrews, N.B.

    Citing unspecified threats to a sensitive environment and to public safety, the Canadian government said it would use "all legal and diplomatic means" to prevent the tankers from entering Head Harbour Passage en route to those terminals.

    Canada takes the position that the passage has the status of internal waters over which it has exclusive jurisdiction.

    The U.S. State Department agrees the passage is Canadian, but sees it as a territorial sea in which commercial ships enjoy the right of innocent passage under international law.

    Experts in international law have offered conflicting opinions in the last year, with an American professor in Hawaii siding with the Canadian opponents and a Canadian professor in British Columbia agreeing with the Americans.

    The dispute over the passage's status predates the LNG controversy by several decades. It played a role in Canada opposing its use by oil tankers en route to a proposed oil refinery in the 1970s. The refinery was never built.

    The channel is about 600 metres wide at its narrowest point and is known for high tides, strong currents and frequent, unpredictable fog. One of the world's largest whirlpools, the "Old Sow," forms in the channel each day.

    Still, the LNG proponents maintain Head Harbour Passage can be safely navigated by LNG tankers under certain conditions, and cite sophisticated simulations performed last year in Rhode Island to back their case.

    Charlotte County environmentalist Janice Harvey, one of the leaders of Save Passamaquoddy Bay-Canada, a group opposed to LNG terminals, was encouraged to learn Harper had spoken to Bush.

    "This tells me it's still a front-burner issue for the prime minister," Harvey said Wednesday.

    "Time is very limited at these summits and I'm sure they think very hard about what issues deserve to be raised."

    Local opponents argue the tankers pose an unacceptable risk to public safety should a leak or spill result in a fire, and that they threaten the local economy, which is largely based on fishing, aquaculture and tourism.

    Thompson said he hopes to brief Foreign Affairs Minister Maxime Bernier soon on the issue. Bernier, whose department is taking the lead role, was shuffled into his new post earlier this month.

     

     

     

                                                                          

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  •  09-09-2007, 6:55 PM

    Ottawa to consider regulations banning U.S.-bound tankers from N.B. waterway




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    Ottawa to consider regulations banning U.S.-bound tankers from N.B. waterway
     
    2007 09 09

     
    By CHRIS MORRIS
     

    ST. ANDREWS, N.B. (CP) - Federal politicians say Canada is considering regulations to ban liquefied natural gas supertankers from a sensitive waterway in the Bay of Fundy, risking renewed territorial tensions with the United States.

    Maxime Bernier, Canada's new minister of foreign affairs, assured a citizens' group on Sunday that Canada is strongly opposed to the prospect of LNG supertankers navigating the treacherous waters that lead into Passamaquoddy Bay between Maine and New Brunswick.

    Although Bernier would not take questions from reporters and was too busy to tour the disputed waters by boat, he told the Save Passamaquoddy Bay citizens' group what they wanted to hear - Ottawa will consider regulations banning supertanker traffic in the area.

    "This passage is internal waters and it's very important for us," Bernier said in a brief statement. "We want to protect our people and the environment. ... The prime minister has been very clear on this."

    Passamaquoddy Bay lies between Maine and New Brunswick and any supertanker traffic would have to cross through Head Harbour Passage, a narrow waterway that Canada considers internal waters.

    While the U.S. State Department agrees the passage is Canadian, it considers it a territorial sea in which commercial ships enjoy the right of innocent passage under international law.

    Currently, two U.S. proposals for LNG terminals on the Maine side of the bay are making their way through the U.S. regulatory process.

    Although Prime Minister Stephen Harper recently told President George W. Bush that Canada will not permit tankers through Head Harbour Passage, the Maine LNG proposals are continuing to be reviewed.

    "It's surreal," said Janice Harvey, spokeswoman for the Passamaquoddy group.

    "The U.S. has been aware of Canada's strongly-held position since Feb. 14 ... yet the process on the U.S. side continues as if Canada has said nothing."

    Last February, Michael Wilson, Canada's ambassador to the United States, informed U.S. officials of Canada's position on LNG tanker traffic in the bay, but it has not derailed the plans of the LNG developers.

    Quoddy Bay LNG has chosen a site near Eastport, Maine, across from Deer Island, N.B., and near the Old Sow - one of the world's largest ocean whirlpools.

    Downeast LNG is seeking approval for a site near Robbinston, Maine, directly across from the seaside resort town of St. Andrews, N.B.

    Canada has warned Washington that it will use "all legal and diplomatic means" to prevent the tankers from entering Head Harbour Passage en route to the terminals.

    Veteran's Affairs Minister Greg Thompson, the MP for the area, repeated that warning on Sunday.

    "Whatever it takes," Thompson said, adding that several government departments are looking at regulations to ban LNG tankers from Head Harbour Passage.

    Harvey said the concerned citizens pressed Bernier during their private meeting to expedite the necessary regulations.

    "If regulatory permits are granted to the LNG developers, we want the Canadian government to be ready at that point to step forward with regulations," she said.

    "He assured us he would look into this quickly and that he would urge his staff to make sure we were ready when the time comes."

    Thompson said the federal departments of Fisheries, Foreign Affairs and Transport are all examining possible shipping regulations outlawing tanker traffic in the area.

    Harvey reminded Canadian officials that the Canada Shipping Act bestows broad powers on the transport minister to bring in regulations to protect the public and environment from risks posed by shipping.

    She said the minister has the power prohibit specific routes or cargo, as well as the size of vessels.

    People opposing the LNG terminals say the potential tanker traffic poses a serious environmental threat to the pristine waters of Passamaquoddy Bay, a popular tourist destination for both Canadians and Americans.


     

     

     

     

     

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  •  09-09-2007, 7:29 PM

    Re: Ottawa to consider regulations banning U.S.-bound tankers from N.B. waterway

    dream on it will never happen we are to much kiss ass for that

    zymry is off limit

    time has come
  •  07-19-2008, 7:41 AM

    latest LNG setback



     
          
         
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    Passamaquoddy Bay's defender encouraged by latest LNG setback

     

    Saturday July 19th, 2008

    Rob Linke
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    OTTAWA - It's too early to declare victory, but Art Mackay sounds like he can smell it in the salt air.

    Mackay, of the Save Passamaquoddy Bay - Canada grassroots group fighting three proposed LNG terminals in Maine just across the bay from scenic St. Andrews, said his members are weighing the news that one company is at an impasse.

    Quoddy Bay LNG has announced it plans to postpone or temporarily withdraw its applications for a review by the state of Maine for its proposed liquefied natural gas terminal at Pleasant Point, Me.

    Quoddy Bay president Donald Smith's news release cited several factors. For example, the company has not finalized which country will be the source of its gas, so it cannot determine the precise chemical composition of the gas or what processing equipment will be required. Building only the necessary equipment could save as much as $100 million, said Smith.

    Smith told the Bangor Daily News that critics are wrong to interpret the company's latest step as a sign their project isn't feasible. By "being patient," he said, the company may end up with a project that's "more agreeable."

    The company has also been asked to consider sharing the pipeline corridor with other LNG terminal proponents. It is also awaiting the outcome of a challenge to the Bureau of Indian Affairs' approval of a land lease with the Passamaquoddy Tribe. Another tribal group opposed to the project has sued the BIA over the approval.

    This spring, the U.S. Federal Energy Regulatory Commission had already suspended its review of the company's application, citing insufficient information submitted by the company on key issues. Company officials said at the time that they are working to come up with the information that FERC seeks.

    One of the major obstacles all the proponents face is the government of Canada's formal opposition to letting LNG tankers transit Head Harbour Passage, the only waterway that would allow the ships to access the proposed terminal.

    Quoddy Bay's is one of three proposals for LNG facilities in easternmost Maine. Downeast LNG is seeking approval to build a smaller facility in nearby Robbinston, while a third group - Calais LNG - is in the early stages of mounting a proposal in Calais.

     

     

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