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but if the union would have recommend to take a little less   the member would not loose  as much   so  is the union getting kickback from the government

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every Union's financial is open to the members to review - if someone believes the Union is getting kickbacks, they should do a review

do you really they would be dum enought to put kick back in the books    ?  

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well then vote out the people there and run yourself - that way if there is kickback's, you get them - lol

sounds good to me   i need money


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but here acouple of things about unions   :

irving refinery strike  way back when  union held for 2 years on  wages  a lot of people lost evrything ....

settle for way less and even job  jumping was allowed  what good did the union do


sugar refinary  went on strike slack season  so they closed it down moved   i think to Ontario

st john shipyard settlefor way less after a long strike


tech school worker held on for a while but also loss out


todays  union are not worth anything  ... they should be reviewed   .......something is wrong

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1 - Unions don't negotiate for a strike - it cost them money - members on strike don't pay Union dues for starters - more legal fees - strike pay , etc.

2 - Unions didn't accept less - the MEMBERS did

If a Union is run right the MEMBERS make the decisions.  The guys or girls at the table are only the voice of the MEMBERS.  If this is not the case, then it's no longer a Union; its a dictartorship.

I agree - the Labor movement as a whole needs to take a step back and look at what's going on.  Hopefully, it will happen sooner than later.  The problem with most Unions is that they run them like companies - they forgot what they should be doing.  But that's my fault as a member as much as it's my fault as a Canadian that our goverments only cater to big business and not to Joe Taxpayer.

well i cannot argue  those points   they were well spoken  and i totally agree with you ...


but we will never see a change in anything unless the Canadians work as a group which i do not forsee in a near  future

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And I can't disagree with you - Canadians have become so complacent that they don't do anything anymore - gas goes up over a dollar, everyone grumbles but they still do as much driving as before.  Goverment cuts programs, everyone grumbles but they still elect the same _______ (fill this in yourself).

I was telling my parents last night that what needs to happen in Canada, unfortunately, is what happens overseas - citizen uproar.  I'm 37 and I can't see that happening in my lifetime.

so i guess i better  not hold my breath to see it   because  i am  60

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 btw nice talking with you  ........   i really enjoyed it  ....... 

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same here - I always love a good debate and a nice conversation