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Don't trust the Moncton SPCA!

Last post 07-23-2007, 10:13 AM by Major Bernie Bently. 70 replies.
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  •  06-01-2007, 2:07 PM

    Re: Don't trust the Moncton SPCA!

    Just to clear something up about Kennel Cough (AKA Bordetella) this is a diesease found in Dogs not cats.  In fact cats are not even immunized for bordetella,. Cats contract what is called upper respitory disease. It is passed from one cat to another through the air. 
    As for your friends cat being sick who is to say that he contracted it from the SPCA.

    For someone who sure likes to make them self sound perfect you certainly do not know very much about an orgainization that you do not trust.  Please take a week and volunteer and you will soon understand how the mistake was made.

    You say that if it was you working there it wouldn't matter if there were 500 cats there you would check each and every cage and you would never make a mistake.. That is the funniest thing I have ever heard in my entire life... Good punch line....  You are so caught up in the holier than thou attitude about how much you love your pets and about how much we don't love ours. And how we like to bash the "animal lover" , get over yourself and see what we are trying to say here. You have condemed an entire orgainization for this.  

    Do you realize that when you google "moncton spca" the 4th thing that comes up is "DON"T TRUST THE MONCTON SPCA" Do you realize how many people see that link in a run of an hour?  

    Unless you have spent time at this organization and seen what takes place behind "Closed doors" you really can not make assumptions that they are untrust worthy.  How do you know that that person really didn't go and look and really didn't see any cats matching your friends description or picture.  That is a very unfair assumption. 

    You both should be thank full that the SPCA exists otherwise there  is a good chance your friends cat could have been gone forever. 

    I have been behind the scenes there I know what it is like to walk the line of cages and see cat after cat sitting there just waiting to be taken home.  There is paper work on each animal but when you read line after line of "male with white body, black spots," or "female with black body white spots" it eventually becomes a blurr of fur. 

    Ok yes a mistake was made. Both of your cats are home safe and sound.  As for euthanizing animals... this is only done when the animal is extremely ill.   My cousin's dog was there for 5 days with a broken shoulder (he strayed and was hit by a car) someone brought the dog in and he was still alive when my cousin finally found out that the dog was there... They took great care of him, made sure that he was seen by a vet and was medicated for pain. 

    Next time don't be so quick to condem an entire organization.

  •  06-01-2007, 2:41 PM

    Re: Don't trust the Moncton SPCA!

    I never pretended to be perfect.  I did not condemn the organization..I didn't say it shouldn't exist. I posted a post that clearly stated what happened to me.  And if idiots only read the one line don't trust the SPCA and believe it...then how smart where they in the first place.  I have my own mind.....you must think other people don't


    "The future belongs to those who believe in the beauty of their dreams. Eleanor Roosevelt"

    "No one loves you unconditionally as your beloved pet." ~~I have nothing but sympathy for those that can't relate.



  •  06-01-2007, 2:56 PM

    Re: Don't trust the Moncton SPCA!

    mindy rae wrote:

    Just to clear something up about Kennel Cough (AKA Bordetella) this is a diesease found in Dogs not cats.  In fact cats are not even immunized for bordetella,. Cats contract what is called upper respitory disease. It is passed from one cat to another through the air. 
    As for your friends cat being sick who is to say that he contracted it from the SPCA.

    I POSTED AN ARTICLE ABOUT KENNEL COUGH, written by a licensed vet....you might want to let her know that a cat can't catch it.

    Cats can contract kennel cough, too

    Dr. M. Margaret King
    The Edmond Sun

    EDMOND When we hear the term “kennel cough” we immediately think of coughing dogs. However, more recently we have started seeing cats with the same infection.

    Most of the time, we see cats with upper respiratory diseases that are caused primarily by viruses. Kennel cough is caused by a bacterium, Bordetella bronchiseptica.

    The big difference in clinical signs is the cough. Cats rarely ever cough with upper respiratory infections, but coughing is the primary complaint with kennel cough.

    Most often, cats, with kennel cough are adult cats from kennels, shelters, and catteries, or almost any kitten that has been exposed to a sick cat. As with dogs, cats do not necessarily have to board to get it. Outdoor animals can contract kennel cough as it is spread through the air in the environment. When a cat sneezes or coughs, a fine mist of secretions is released into the air.

    Any cat within the vicinity can breathe in the contaminated air and contract the disease.

    A dry, hacky cough is the primary presenting sign. The cats seem to be gagging. Many times it can be confused with the cat trying to cough up a hairball. They may also have runny eyes, runny nose, sneezing, loss of appetite and a fever, especially early on in the disease. Left untreated, the kennel cough can become serious. Pneumonia and even death have been reported.

    Kennel cough can be diagnosed by your veterinarian by taking a swab from the back of the cat’s throat and sending it out to be cultured. Your veterinarian will want to know the likelihood of exposure for your pet. This, along with symptoms or clinical signs and a positive culture for Bordetella can confirm the disease. Occasionally, cats can have a mixed infection of both bacteria and viruses.

    On the upside, kennel cough does respond well to antibiotics. Kittens are a lot more likely to get the disease and to have complications from it. They are very contagious and need to be kept away from other cats and kittens.

    There is a vaccine available for use in cats and kittens four weeks and older. However, the efficacy of the vaccine is not all that good. It may not totally prevent the disease, but it does usually decrease the severity of the disease, and shorten the recovery period.

    Luckily kennel cough in cats is fairly rare except in outdoor cats, catteries and animal shelters. In these animals, the vaccine may indeed be beneficial. We rarely recommend giving the vaccine to single cat households or even multiple cat households that are always kept inside.

    You should discuss your particular cat situation with your veterinarian who will make recommendations for prevention and for whether or not you should vaccinate.

    Special caution is warranted when bringing another cat into your household.

    (Dr. M. Margaret King, a longtime Edmond veterinarian, is a guest columnist. If you have any questions for her, send them to 1900 S. Bryant, Edmond, OK 73013.)


    "The future belongs to those who believe in the beauty of their dreams. Eleanor Roosevelt"

    "No one loves you unconditionally as your beloved pet." ~~I have nothing but sympathy for those that can't relate.



  •  06-01-2007, 3:36 PM

    Re: Don't trust the Moncton SPCA!

    I DON'T!
    Together we stand, Divided we fall.
  •  06-01-2007, 9:50 PM

    Re: Don't trust the Moncton SPCA!

    Ok I will on this point back peddle a bit.

    Kennel cough is predominately found in dogs. It is extremely rare for cats to contract it. And if you go to any vet and ask for the vaccine chances are they won't even have it.

    Normally the big problem with animal shelters and cats is Feline Leukemia and upper respiratory disease.  Both of which are very very contagious and can be deadly. 

    With the training I have receieved from college and highly respected vets, I have never heard of cats contracting kennel cough... SO rare but possible ... My apoligies.

  •  06-01-2007, 10:33 PM

    Re: Don't trust the Moncton SPCA!

    If you are going to be a responisble pet owner it is your legal duty to make sure that you look after your pet. Considering your irresponsible attitude toward spay and or neutering your pet, I am not surprised your pet has given you the dodge to get out there and fulfill their feline desires. Like, what were you thinking? Do you really think, that if you leave a "domesticated" wild animal to their own devices they won't bolt at the first opportunity? You must be thick.

    And about your happy ending...you are totally responsible for the increase in the feral cat population by letting your cat out. Had your cat been a male there would be several, (if not many) impregnated cats who would probably eat the weakest of their own spawn and leave the rest to be either shot by farmers, or run over by cars, or even worse; take out all the song birds in your community. You were blessed by getting her back, now take care of her as you would if you had a conscience for your environment.

    Nice going Wardsha! Way-to-feel-the-pain.
    Nothing in life is so exhilerating as to be shot at without result. Winston Churchill
  •  06-02-2007, 12:04 AM

    Re: Don't trust the Moncton SPCA!

    Wardsha....Please....have pity....


    OKAY, Don't.

    Do your worst.
    Nothing in life is so exhilerating as to be shot at without result. Winston Churchill
  •  06-02-2007, 12:17 AM

    Re: Don't trust the Moncton SPCA!

    That was so last minute....

    Over it, all is forgiven.


    "The future belongs to those who believe in the beauty of their dreams. Eleanor Roosevelt"

    "No one loves you unconditionally as your beloved pet." ~~I have nothing but sympathy for those that can't relate.



  •  06-02-2007, 10:50 AM

    Re: Don't trust the Moncton SPCA!

    Wow, Wardsha, one thing I can say about you is you're passionate in your opinions!  And you know what?  That's what this board NEEDS.  Ditto for members like sass and MacDoug.  Somebody's gotta stir the pot.

    I come with stories from both sides on this debate.  I had a cat near and dear to me named Rocky for well over 13 years, I got him when he was 2.  When he got sick and I knew he wasn't going to get better after a visit to the vet, I brought him to the SPCA to be euthanized.  It was one of the hardest things I've ever had to do in my life.  They consoled me when I told them the story and I was in tears as they walked away with him in their arms.  They assured me it would be painless, that he would just fall asleep.  My eyes are welling up just typing this.

    Now on the other side, I had a dog named Rocksy that I got from a puppy mill, unbeknownst to me (the place is snookums.com - while not 'officially' a puppy mill, I'm pretty damned sure now).  Making a long story short, we'd come to find out she'd been abused and neglected for the first six months of her life, and had a really hard time warming up to people.  She was loving, affectionate, and very, very afraid of just about everything.  After two years of her peeing in the house, howling at night, digging in the backyard, endlessly barking and getting complaints from neighbours, we decided she had to go.  We brought her to the SPCA where we thought they'd find a home for her.  You know what they told us?  That she was too wild, had to be caged alone - basically solitary confinement - and if after two weeks no one picked her up, she'd be euthanized.  We would have NONE OF THAT.  We brought her instead to a place called Faint Hope Claws, where they kept her until they found a home for her, in less than two weeks they did.  That's a hell of a better option than just killing her.  That day, the SPCA was rude and uncaring about our plight.  Absolutely unacceptable behaviour for an organization that's supposed to champion the rights of animals.

    So, I can see both sides of the argument here.  I completely sympathize with Wardsha, but those who side with the SPCA, I can understand where they're coming from too.  That said, I won't deal with the SPCA again if I can avoid it.

  •  07-23-2007, 7:42 AM

    Re: Don't trust the Moncton SPCA!

    I am sad to see that this topic has come to an end LOL!

    That was like reading a book full of suspense...!

    Where did everyone go?

     

  •  07-23-2007, 10:13 AM

    Re: Don't trust the Moncton SPCA!

    I drove pass the spca once.
    You only live life once.
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