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The Bible is a Rehash of Egyptian Religion
Last post 07-28-2007, 9:12 AM by Cloudhopper. 3 replies.
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07-26-2007, 9:29 AM |
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The Bible is a Rehash of Egyptian Religion
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He was born of a virgin on December 25th. His birth was announced by
an eastern star and visited by three wise men. He was a child teacher at 12 and
was baptized at 30 after disappearing for 18 years (with the priest who baptized
him later decapitated). He had 12 disciples. He performed miracles, walked on
water, exorcised demons and raised El-Azarus from the dead. He was crucified
between two thieves, buried three days in a tomb, and then resurrected. He was
given the titles "Messiah," "Son of Man," the "Good Shepherd," and "Lamb of
God." Oh yeah, he was also called the "Anointed One," spelled out as "KRST."
Sound Familiar? If you automatically thought Jesus, than you'd be wrong. This is the description of the Ancient god Horus.
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07-26-2007, 10:39 AM |
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Re: The Bible is a Rehash of Egyptian Religion
hehe... the Horus story is pretty old :)
Comparing Osiris, Horus, and Jesus
James Patrick Holding
Of
all the pagan copycat candidates, this is the last couple -- other than
Buddha -- that look to be a major threat. Egypt after all is not far
from Palestine, and Jews did live in Egypt; it is not theoretically
improbable that they could steal an idea for a Jesus from this place.
But did they? The field is rife with claims, but as usual a plate of
fudge stands in the middle. There is a great deal of filching of
Christian terms to describe Egyptian events (not all of it with bad
intentions) and a great deal of non-citation of sources for fabulous
claims. This being the case, we here announce again that this will be
our last pagan copycat item for a while until someone in the Acharya
S/Freke and Gandy camp steps forward and provides some better
documentation that 18th-19th century rumormongers.
So
let's get to some of these claims. I'm going to mix the ones for Horus
and Osiris together for convenience. These are from Achy's Christ Conspiracy [114-116]; oddly enough Freke and Gandy add nothing new and in fact only supplement a few of these.
- Osiris
- Had well over 200 divine names, including Lord of Lords, King of
Kings, God of Gods, Resurrection and the Life, Good Shepherd, Eternity
and Everlastingness, the god who "made men and women to be born again."
- Coming was announced by Three Wise Men: the three
stars Mintaka, Anilam, and Alnitak in the belt of Orion, which point
directly to Osiris' star in the east, Sirius, significator of his birth
- Was a devoured Host. His flesh was eaten in the form of communion cakes of wheat, the 'plant of Truth'.
- The 23rd Psalm copied an Egyptian text appealing to
Osiris the Good Shepherd to lead the deceased to the 'green pastures'
and 'still waters' of the nefer-nefer land, to restore the soul and
body, and to give protection in the valley of the shadow of death...
- The Lord's Prayer was prefigured by an Egyptian hymn
to Osiris-Amen beginning, 'O Amen, O Amen, who are in heaven. Amen was
also invoked at the end of every prayer.
- The teachings of Osiris and Jesus are wonderfully alike. Many passages are identically the same, word for word.
- As the god of the vine, a great traveling teacher who civilized the world. Ruler and judge of the dead.
- In his passion, Osiris was plotted against and killed by Set and "the 72."
- Osiris' resurrection served to provide hope to all that they may do likewise and become eternal.
- Horus
- Was born of the virgin Isis-Meri in December 25th in a
cave/manger with his birth being announced by a star in the East and
attended by three wise men.
- His earthly father was named "Seb" ("Joseph").
- He was of royal descent.
- At age 12 he was a child teacher in the Temple, and at 30, he was baptized, having disappeared for 18 years.
- Was baptized in the river Eridanus or Iaurutana (Jordan) by "Anup the Baptizer" (John the Baptist) who was decapitated.
- He ad 12 disciples, two of whom were his "witnesses" and were named "Anup" and "AAn" (the two "Johns").
- He performed miracles, exorcized demons and raised El-Azarus ("El-Osiris") from the dead.
- Horus walked on water.
- His personal epithet was "Iusa" the "ever-becoming son" of "Ptah," the "Father." He was called the "Holy Child."
- He delivered a "Sermon on the Mount" and his followers recounted the "Sayings of Iusa."
- Horus was transfigured on the Mount.
- He was crucified between two thieves, buried for three days in a tomb, was resurrected.
- Titles: Way, the Truth the Light; Messiah; God's
Anointed Son; Son of Man; Good Shepherd; Lamb of God; Word made flesh;
Word of Truth.
- Was "the Fisher" and was associated with the Fish ("Ichthys"), Lamb and Lion.
- He came to fulfill the Law.
- Was called "the KRST" or "Anointed One."
- Was supposed to reign one thousand years.
That's
quite a list, but let's make it simple to start: A good number -- at
least half -- are so far as I have seen bogus. There has not been a
shred of evidence for many of these in any book of Egyptian religion I
have thus far consulted. So as Clara Peller used to say, Where's the beef?
Where's the original Egyptian lit that backs this up? Christ-Mythers:
we do not want to hear from Gerald Massey or Godfrey Higgins; we want
the original citation from Egyptian records. If I don't hear
from any of you within a year (and I know that they check in on this
site, because I hear from them), I'll assume no response is possible
and go back to more copycat projects. In some cases below we will draw
upon Glenn Miller's copycat article where he has done some previous
work.
For convenience I begin by reproducing the "thumbnail sketch of Horus' life" given in Encyclopedia of Religions as offered by Miller, which also lays the groundwork for Osiris:
"In
ancient Egypt there were originally several gods known by the name
Horus, but the best known and most important from the beginning of the
historic period was the son of Osiris and Isis who was identified with
the king of Egypt. According to myth, Osiris, who assumed the rulership
of the earth shortly after its creation, was slain by his jealous
brother, Seth. The sister- wife of Osiris, Isis, who collected the
pieces of her dismembered husband and revived him, also conceived his
son and avenger, Horus. Horus fought with Seth, and, despite the loss
of one eye in the contest, was successful in avenging the death of his
father and in becoming his legitimate successor. Osiris then became
king of the dead and Horus king of the living, this transfer being
renewed at every change of earthly rule. The myth of divine kingship
probably elevated the position of the god as much as it did that of the
king. In the fourth dynasty, the king, the living god, may have been
one of the greatest gods as well, but by the fifth dynasty the
supremacy of the cult of Re, the sun god, was accepted even by the
kings. The Horus-king was now also "son of Re." This was made possible
mythologically by personifying the entire older genealogy of Horus (the
Heliopolitan ennead) as the goddess Hathor, "house of Horus," who was
also the spouse of Re and mother of Horus.
"Horus
was usually represented as a falcon, and one view of him was as a great
sky god whose outstretched wings filled the heavens; his sound eye was
the sun and his injured eye the moon. Another portrayal of him
particularly popular in the Late Period, was as a human child suckling
at the breast of his mother, Isis. The two principal cult centers for
the worship of Horus were at Bekhdet in the north, where very little
survives, and at Idfu in the south, which has a very large and well-
preserved temple dating from the Ptolemaic period. The earlier myths
involving Horus, as well as the ritual per- formed there, are recorded
at Idfu."
Osiris
- Had
well over 200 divine names, including Lord of Lords, King of Kings, God
of Gods, Resurrection and the Life, Good Shepherd, Eternity and
Everlastingness, the god who "made men and women to be born again."
The titles I have found ascribed to Osiris are [Fraz.AAO] Lord of All,
the Good Being (the most common title), Lord of the Underworld,
Lord/King of Eternity, Ruler of the Dead, [Griff.OO] Lord of the West,
Great One, [Bud.ERR, 26] "he who takes seat," the Begetter, the Ram,
[Bud.ERR, 79] "great Word" (as in, "the word of what cometh into being
and what is not" -- a reflection of the ancient idea of the creative
power of speech, found likewise in the Greek Logos), "Chief of the
Spirits"; [Short.EG, 37] ruler of everlastingness, [Meek.DL, 31]
"living god," "God above the gods." All of these are either general
titles we would expect to be assigned to any head honcho deity, or else
are related to O's command over the underworld. None of the ones cited
closest and uniquely like unto Jesus were found.
- Coming was announced by Three Wise Men: the three stars
Mintaka, Anilam, and Alnitak in the belt of Orion, which point directly
to Osiris' star in the east, Sirius, significator of his birth.
Freke and Gandy repeat only the last part about the star. But while
some scholars connect Osiris with Orion, they do not know anything
about wise men or a star in the east.
- Was a devoured Host. His flesh was eaten in the form of communion cakes of wheat, the 'plant of Truth'. Not that anyone in the scholarly lit has reported.
- The 23rd Psalm copied an Egyptian text appealing to Osiris
the Good Shepherd to lead the deceased to the 'green pastures' and
'still waters' of the nefer-nefer land, to restore the soul and body,
and to give protection in the valley of the shadow of death... If
this is so, no commentator in Egyptian religion or the OT knows about
it. Osiris would possibly be known as a shepherd as such imagery was common in the ANE, but I have not seen it yet applied to him by anyone but mythicists.
- The Lord's Prayer was prefigured by an Egyptian hymn to
Osiris-Amen beginning, 'O Amen, O Amen, who are in heaven.' Amen was
also invoked at the end of every prayer. If so, we want to know
where this prayer is recorded, and so would experts in Egyptian
religion. The Hebrew "Amen" is never used as a salutation and means
"let it be so" which means it is not "invoked" as a deity is. Beyond
that, let's see an etymological connection based on the original
languages, not on the correspondence of English characters.
- The teachings of Osiris and Jesus are wonderfully alike. Many passages are identically the same, word for word.
If so, someone other than Achy's source, James Churchward, needs to put
them side by side and prove it. The Egyptian religious scholars don't
seem aware of it.
- As the god of the vine, a great traveling teacher who civilized the world. Ruler and judge of the dead.
This is a bit non-specific. Frazer reported [Fraz.AAO, vii, 7] that
Osiris taught winemaking and agriculture, gave the Egyptians laws,
taught them proper worship, and traveled the word teaching these
things. But this is the claim that was made of Dionysus
as well, and we have answered that point within that essay. Not that it
matters, since it seems only Frazer and later Freke and Gandy have an
idea that the two are connected. Literature written by scholars of
Egyptian religion do not treat them as the same, though some connect
Osiris and Orion, and Budge notes the travels but does not connect
Osiris and Dionysius [Bud.ERR, 9]. In any event Osiris is nowhere
called a "god of the vine". He is ruler and judge of the dead, but this
doesn't describe Jesus, who represents a God who is not God of the
dead, "but of the living." At most it represents what might be expected
of any supreme deity: to rule and to judge.
- In his passion, Osiris was plotted against and killed by Set and "the 72."
This is a combination of terminological fudging, half-truth, and
irrelevancy. There was no "passion" -- in the incident alluded to, O.
was indeed plotted against by Set. There was a big party, at which Set
had a coffin brought in and encouraged everyone, including 72
participants in the scheme and one queen of Ethiopia, to lay down for a
fit. Finally it came O's turn, and he was persuaded to lay down in the
coffin. Once O was inside, Set nailed the coffin shut and threw it in
the river; O suffocated. Note that the 72 here are enemies of O, not
his disciples: only the number -- a multiple of 12, a number we still
hold in regard today when we purchase eggs and donuts -- is a common
touchpoint (and that only in some mss. of Luke 10; others put the
number at 70, possibly representing the number of Gentile nations,
according to the Jews). They do nothing at all that could be considered
like what Jesus' disciples did. As the story goes further, O's wife
Isis went looking for the coffin. She found it in Syria, where it had
been incorporated into the pillar of a house. She lamented so loudly
that some kids in the house died of fright. Later she took it out,
opened it up, then went looking for Horus. Meanwhile Set found the
coffin and tore the body in 14 pieces which he threw all over the
place. In one result Isis went looking for the pieces and buried them
as she found them. An alternate story has Isis, Anubis, and Ra piecing
the body together, swathing it with bandages, and reviving him -- more
on this below.
- Osiris' resurrection served to provide hope to all that they may do likewise and become eternal.
This is where we find some of the biggest misuse of terminology,
including by some Egyptian scholars of religion (who do not go on to
posit a "copycat" relationship!). Osiris resurrected? Not if
"resurrection" is defined as coming back in a glorified body. On this
point Miller has done some substantial work, reporting the words of J.
Z. Smith, so I will let these speak to begin:
"Osiris was murdered and his body dismembered and
scattered. The pieces of his body were recovered and rejoined, and the
god was rejuvenated. However, he did not return to his former mode of
existence but rather journeyed to the underworld, where he became the
powerful lord of the dead. In no sense can Osiris be said to have
'risen' in the sense required by the dying and rising pattern (as
described by Frazer et.al.); most certainly it was never considered as
an annual event."
"In no sense can the dramatic myth of his death and
reanimation be harmonized to the pattern of dying and rising gods (as
described by Frazer et.al.)."
"The repeated formula 'Rise up, you have not died,'
whether applied to Osiris or a citizen of Egypt, signaled a new,
permanent life in the realm of the dead."
Frankfort concurs:
"Osiris, in fact, was not a 'dying' god at all but a
'dead' god. He never returned among the living; he was not liberated
from the world of the dead, as Tammuz was. On the contrary, Osiris
altogether belonged to the world of the dead; it was from there that he
bestowed his blessings upon Egypt. He was always depicted as a mummy, a
dead king." [Kingship and the gods: a study of ancient Near Eastern
religion as the integration of society & nature. UChicago:1978
edition, p.289]
Perhaps the only pagan god for whom there is a
resurrection is the Egyptian Osiris. Close examination of this story
shows that it is very different from Christ's resurrection. Osiris did
not rise; he ruled in the abode of the dead. As biblical scholar,
Roland de Vaux, wrote, "What is meant of Osiris being 'raised to life?'
Simply that, thanks to the ministrations of Isis, he is able to lead a
life beyond the tomb which is an almost perfect replica of earthly
existence. But he will never again come among the living and will reign
only over the dead.… This revived god is in reality a 'mummy' god."...
No, the mummified Osiris was hardly an inspiration for the resurrected
Christ...As Yamauchi observes, "Ordinary men aspired to identification
with Osiris as one who had triumphed over death." But it is a mistake
to equate the Egyptian view of the afterlife with the biblical doctrine
of resurrection. To achieve immortality the Egyptian had to meet three
conditions: First, his body had to be preserved by mummification.
Second, nourishment was provided by the actual offering of daily bread
and beer. Third, magical spells were interred with him. His body did
not rise from the dead; rather elements of his personality-his Ba and
Ka-continued to hover over his body. ["The Resurrection of Jesus
Christ: Myth, Hoax, or History?" David J. MacLeod, in The Emmaus
Journal, V7 #2, Winter 98, p169
Frazer [Fraz.AAO, viii] wrote that every dead man was given Osiris' name on top of his own in order to identify with the god.
So O's "resurrection" is no resurrection at all -- and in fact was
actually a sort of function of the way the Egyptian gods were, shall we
say, being half Frankenstein, half Lego set. There are in fact many
stories of the Egyptian gods flinging various body parts around, and to
no overall harm, because "divine bodies were thought to be impervious
to change" [Meek.DL, 57] and so O's dead body neither rotted nor
decomposed as it waited to be put back together. This is how it was
with all these Egyptian gods: Seth and Horus have a fight in which they
throw dung at each other then steal each others' genitals [Bud.ERR,
64]. Horus' eye is stolen by Set, but Horus gets it back and gives it
to Osiris, who eats it [ibid., 88]. Horus had a headache, and another
deity offers to loan him his head until the headache went away
[Meek.DL, 57]. Osiris did pay a price for his dismembering death, in
that he was limited to the world of the dead [and manifestly ignorant
as a result of what went on "above ground" -- Meek.DL, 88-9], but that
is only because he had actually died once before when his father
accidentally killed him [ibid., 80].
Horus
Now we get to the matters of Horus. Many of these have had some input from Miller, so we'll report those and add as needed.
- Was
born of the virgin Isis-Meri in December 25th in a cave/manger with his
birth being announced by a star in the East and attended by three wise
men. The lit has confirmed what Miller offers, and I have also seen
the depiction he refers to below. I have found no reference to a
cave/manger -- Frazer [Fraz.AAO, 8] has Horus born in the swamps, and
knows nothing about a star or Wise Men, of any number.
...Horus was NOT born of a virgin at all. Indeed, one
ancient Egyptian relief depicts this conception by showing his mother
Isis in a falcon form, hovering over an erect phallus of a dead and
prone Osiris in the Underworld (EOR, s.v. "Phallus"). And the Dec 25
issue is of no relevance to us--nowhere does the NT associate this date
with Jesus' birth at all.
Indeed, the description of the conception of Horus will
show exactly the sexual elements that characterize pagan 'miracle
births', as noted by the scholars earlier:
"But after she [i.e., Isis] had brought it [i.e. Osiris'
body] back to Egypt, Seth managed to get hold of Osiris's body again
and cut it up into fourteen parts, which she scattered all over Egypt.
Then Isis went out to search for Osiris a second time and buried each
part where she found it (hence the many tombs of Osiris tht exist in
Egypt). The only part that she did not find was the god's penis, for
Seth had thrown it into the river, where it had been eaten by a fish;
Isis therefore fashioned a substitute penis to put in its place. She
had also had sexual intercourse with Osisis after his death, which
resulted in the conception and birth of his posthumous son,
Harpocrates, Horus-the-child. Osiris became king of the netherworld,
and Horus proceeded to fight with Seth..." [CANE:2:1702; emphasis mine]
[BTW, the Hebrew word 'satan' is not a 'cognate' of the name 'seth' by
any means: "The root *STN is not evidenced in any of the cognate
languages in texts that are prior to or contemporary with its
occurrences in the Hebrew Bible" DDD, s.v. 1369f]
The one reference I have found to a birth of Horus has him born on
the 31st day of the Egyptian month of Khoiak -- the mythers have a one
in 365 chance that this matches Dec. 25th! Achy adds, with Massey as a
likely source, the claim that on the walls of the Luxor Temple is a
scene showing the "Annunciation, Immaculate Conception, Birth and
Adoration of Horus, with Thoth announcing to the Virgin Isis that she
will conceive Horus; with Kenph, the 'Holy Ghost,' impregnating the
virgin," complete with three wise men. For some reason neither Achy nor
Massey provide a name or number for this carving, or a location any
more specific than the Luxor Temple, which is a rather huge place that
is inaccessible to most of Achy's readers. When pressed by an inquirer
at her site, Achy plays word games -- "Isis is the constellation of
Virgo the Virgin, as well as the Moon, which becomes a 'virgin' during
when it is new. The sun god - in this case, Horus - is born of this
Virgin goddess." -- and alludes to a document from the 6th century AD!
No substantiation is offered for the Isis-Virgo connection at all; it
has no more authority than saying "Isis is Gomer the prostitute." If
such a carving exists it is only what Achy thinks it is via the
interpretation of Massey. (A writer recently sent this description from
an Egyptian tour site: "Kingship was believed to be ordained by the
gods at the beginning of time in accordance with ma'at., the
well-ordered state, truth, justice, cosmic order. The reigning king was
also the physical son of the Creator sun-god. This divine conception
and birth was recorded on the walls of Luxor Temple, at Deir el-Bahri,
and other royal cult temples throughout Egypt. The king was also an
incarnation of the dynastic god Horus, and when deceased, the king was
identified with the father of Horus, Osiris. This living king was thus
a unique entity, the living incarnation of deity, divinely chosen
intermediary, who could act as priest for the entire nation, reciting
the prayers, dedicating the sacrifices...A peristyle forecourt of
Amenhotep III is fused with the hypostyle hall, which is the first room
in the inner, originally roofed, part of the temple. This leads to a
series of for antechambers with subsidiary rooms. The Birth Room east
of the second antechamber is decorated with reliefs showing the
symbolic divine birth of Amenhotep III resulting from the union of his
mother Mutemwiya and the god Amun. The bark sanctuary includes a
free-standing building added by Alexander the Great within the larger
chamber created by Amenhotep III. Well-preserved reliefs show Amun's
portable bark shrine and other scenes of the king in the presence of
the gods. The sanctuary of Amenhotep III is the last room on the
central axis of the temple." This is significantly devoid of a virgin
conception or birth, wise men, or a Holy Ghost. You might squeeze an
adoration out of it, but who does not adore newborns anyway? But now
see the trump card, provided by a Skeptic ashamed of Achy's thesis; see
here.)
- His earthly father was named "Seb" ("Joseph"). Actually Seb was the earth-god,
not "earthly," but rather the earth itself (as Nut was the sky), and he
was O's dad, not Horus', though one of my helpful researchers tells me
there is one version in which Horus was the son of Seb. And don't fall
for the etymological trick or treat: You can't get from "Seb" to
"Joseph" just by putting the names next to each other.
- He was of royal descent. Obviously true, and Horus was often identified with the living Pharaoh, but so commonplace as to be meaningless.
- At age 12 he was a child teacher in the Temple, and at 30, he was baptized, having disappeared for 18 years.
- Was baptized in the river Eridanus or Iaurutana (Jordan) by "Anup the Baptizer" (John the Baptist) who was decapitated.
- He had 12 disciples, two of whom were his "witnesses" and were named "Anup" and "AAn" (the two "Johns"). Egyptian religion scholars know of none of this. On this last Miller notes:
...my research in the academic literature does not
surface this fact. I can find references to FOUR "disciples"--variously
called the semi-divine HERU-SHEMSU ("Followers of Horus") [GOE:1.491].
I can find references to SIXTEEN human followers (GOE:1.196). And I can
find reference to an UNNUMBERED group of followers called
mesniu/mesnitu ("blacksmiths") who accompanied Horus in some of his
battles [GOE:1.475f; although these might be identified with the
HERU-SHEMSU in GOE:1.84]. But I cannot find TWELVE anywhere... Horus is
NOT the sun-god (that's Re), so we cannot use the 'all solar gods have
twelve disciples--in the Zodiac' routine here.]
- He performed miracles, exorcized demons and raised El-Azarus ("El-Osiris") from the dead. Miller notes:
Miracle stories abound, even among religious groups that
could not possibly have influenced one another, such as Latin American
groups (e.g. Aztecs) and Roman MR's, so this 'similarity' carries no
force. The reference to this specific resurrection I cannot find
ANYWHERE in the scholarly literature. I have looked under all forms of
the name to no avail. The fact that something so striking is not even
mentioned in modern works of Egyptology indicates its questionable
status. It simply cannot be adduced as data without SOME real
substantiation. The closest thing to it I can find is in Horus'
official funerary role, in which he "introduces" the newly dead to
Osirus and his underworld kingdom. In the Book of the Dead, for
example, Horus introduces the newly departed Ani to Osirus, and asks
Osirus to accept and care for Ani (GOE:1.490).
- Horus walked on water. Not that I have found, but he was thrown in the water (see below).
- His personal epithet was "Iusa" the "ever-becoming son" of "Ptah," the "Father." He was called the "Holy Child." Miller says:
This fact has likewise escaped me and my research. I
have looked at probably 50 epithets of the various Horus deities, and
most major indices of the standard Egyptology reference works and come
up virtually empty-handed. I can find a city named "Iusaas" [GOE:1.85],
a pre-Islamic Arab deity by the name of "Iusaas", thought by some to be
the same as the Egyptian god Tehuti/Thoth [GOE:2.289], and a female
counterpart to Tem, named "Iusaaset" [GOE:1.354]. But no reference to
Horus as being "Iusa"... ]
- He delivered a "Sermon on the Mount" and his followers recounted the "Sayings of Iusa."
- Horus was transfigured on the Mount.
- He was crucified between two thieves, buried for three days in a tomb, was resurrected. None of these three can be found, either. On the last Miller writes:
I can find no references to Horus EVER dying, until he
later becomes "merged" with Re the Sun god, after which he 'dies' and
is 'reborn' every single day as the sun rises. And even in this
'death', there is no reference to a tomb anywhere...
I found in Budge one idea that Horus had died and been cast in
pieces in the water, and his parts were fished out by Sebek the
crocodile god at Isis' request. But that's a funny sort of baptism at
best (see above). Another source notes a story where Horus is bitten by
a snake and revived, which is still not much of a parallel.
- Titles: Way, the Truth the Light; Messiah; God's Anointed
Son; Son of Man; Good Shepherd; Lamb of God; Word made flesh; Word of
Truth. I found thesed titles: [Bud.ERR, 78] Great God, Chief of the
Powers, Master of Heaven, Avenger of His Father (since he beat up Set,
who "killed" Osiris). He may have been called rightly "Son of Man" as
the son of royalty (see here) but I have found no evidence for this.
- Was "the Fisher" and was associated with the Fish ("Ichthys"), Lamb and Lion.
- He came to fulfill the Law.
- Was called "the KRST" or "Anointed One."
- Was supposed to reign one thousand years. I have found no evidence for any of these last four.
Conclusion:
This one seems to be full of ringers so far, and it's high time the
mythicists backed these up with more than third-hand sabre-rattling
from the Barbara Walkers and the Gerald Masseys. So I challenge them
now to come up with the gods -- er, goods. Any takers?
For more: See Mark McFall take on "Skeptic X" (skepticism's own Acharya S) on the subject of O's "resurrection" here and here and here.
Sources:
- Bud.ERR -- Budge, E. Wallis. . 1961.
- Fraz.AAO -- Frazer, J. G. Adonis, Attis, Osiris. 1961.
- Griff.OO -- Griffith, J. Gwyn. The Origins of Osiris and His Cult. Brill: 1996.
- Meek.DL -- Meeks, Dimitri. Daily Life of the Egyptian Gods. 1996.
- Short.EG -- Shorter, Alan. Egyptian Gods: A Handbook. 1937.
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The Bible a Rehash of Egyptian Religion ?
It begs the question....
How many followers does " Horus " have today??
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Re: The Bible a Rehash of Egyptian Religion ?
Oh.... Cyrus!
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